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Thread: Problems with Hoopsisters Sewn Seeds BOM sampler

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    I am not sure about madeira thread as personally I never did care for it as I did have trouble with it but have you changed position of your spool some you can turn over and the thread will come up from the bottom sometimes from the top and some threads only work standing up hope I'm clear on this good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stashelf View Post
    My friend is doing the store sample also. She is using cotton batting and no show mesh. From past experience we have learned it is more work than it is worth to do the backing step. She has not had any problem. It is a beautiful quilt the picture does not do it justice.
    Hi Stashelf, If you don't add the backing, do you just use regular embroidery bobbin thread instead of switching to matching thread? That may seem like a dumb question, but I don't know if they do something different to the stitches to account for the thicker bobbin. thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by meanmom View Post
    I would try doing a block on different fabric? Although I did the Goosetrack Hoopsisters and Whole Earth on all batiks. I believe I used a needle that said embroidery needle. Are you using a thread stand? Good luck. I would also try a different brand of thread. I have found certain brands of thread don't work in my machine for FMQ.
    Hello meanmom, did you use batik backing on the Whole Earth quilt and do the decorative quilting through the backing? Did you pre-wash the batiks? I'm using Microtex 90/14 needles as recommended by Hoopsisters. I have a 10 spool thread stand behind my machine. In all my other embroidery projects I use the Madeira Polyneon and have never had an issue, but others are also suggesting to use different thread. Thank you for your response!
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    I use regular embroidery bobbin thread. I do the backing the same as any quilt.
    Quote Originally Posted by SassyCrab View Post
    Hi Stashelf, If you don't add the backing, do you just use regular embroidery bobbin thread instead of switching to matching thread? That may seem like a dumb question, but I don't know if they do something different to the stitches to account for the thicker bobbin. thank you!

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    I don't have an embroidery machine, but did an all batik quilt on the long arm and had lots of shredding with one of my threads--finally figured out that the quilt was too tight on the frame. Don't know how this translates to an embroidery machine, but is there a way to loosen the tension?

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    I use Polyester Embroidery threads. Some are from Connecting Threads, ARC thread and several other "off" brands. I use inexpensive thread that I have gotten by buying off Ebay for 30 or 40 spools of 1100 yds each for less than $100. Madeira is too pricey for me. Since the thread is shredding before you go very far, I really think most of your problem is the thread.

    Most times I use the same thread in the top & bottom. But I do have a full case of bobbins if I want to just use the polyester bobbin thread. Neither causes any problems for me. I did the Goose Tracks with Batiks and used the Organ HAx130EB 80/12 embroidery machine needles. They are wonderful and last forever. I got them from All Brands in Baton Rouge.

    Second problem.... Most machines have a screw in the back of where the lever take up is. If you find one, unscrew it and you can probably slide the cover off the take up lever to do any clean-up or maintenance you want to.
    Last edited by Barb in Louisiana; 05-27-2015 at 09:29 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb in Louisiana View Post
    I use Polyester Embroidery threads. Some are from Connecting Threads, ARC thread and several other "off" brands. I use inexpensive thread that I have gotten by buying off Ebay for 30 or 40 spools of 1100 yds each for less than $100. Madeira is too pricey for me. Since the thread is shredding before you go very far, I really think most of your problem is the thread.

    Most times I use the same thread in the top & bottom. But I do have a full case of bobbins if I want to just use the polyester bobbin thread. Neither causes any problems for me. I did the Goose Tracks with Batiks and used the Organ HAx130EB 80/12 embroidery machine needles. They are wonderful and last forever. I got them from All Brands in Baton Rouge.

    Second problem.... Most machines have a screw in the back of where the lever take up is. If you find one, unscrew it and you can probably slide the cover off the take up lever to do any clean-up or maintenance you want to.
    Thanks for the info Barb, did you wash your batiks before starting? Also, did you do a batik backing with the quilting stitches? I'm determined to figure this out. I plan to start again tomorrow. I will have to look for that screw on my Ellagio, I don't want to mess with the Ellisimo since I'm just borrowing it. Thanks so much for your response! -Paula

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    I never pre-wash. One of these days I'm going to wash something I've made and have major colors everywhere, but so far Color Catchers and I are best friends. I didn't use a batik back. I used a regular cotton, although my friend did use a batik and had no problem with hers. She has made several of the Hoopsisters patterns and 3 I know were batik backs. No problems. She did the Queen Feathered star on her Ellisimo and I was with her for a lot of it. Her machine chugged through it. She uses all different brands of thread, about like I do.

    I am really looking forward to finding out what works for you. As a side note. If I ever do another Hoopsisters, I don't think I am going to put a backing on each piece. It will be so much easier to join all the pieces and add a backing after the fact. I am thinking that I would used invisible thread and just do a stitch in the ditch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb in Louisiana View Post
    I never pre-wash. One of these days I'm going to wash something I've made and have major colors everywhere, but so far Color Catchers and I are best friends. I didn't use a batik back. I used a regular cotton, although my friend did use a batik and had no problem with hers. She has made several of the Hoopsisters patterns and 3 I know were batik backs. No problems. She did the Queen Feathered star on her Ellisimo and I was with her for a lot of it. Her machine chugged through it. She uses all different brands of thread, about like I do.

    I am really looking forward to finding out what works for you. As a side note. If I ever do another Hoopsisters, I don't think I am going to put a backing on each piece. It will be so much easier to join all the pieces and add a backing after the fact. I am thinking that I would used invisible thread and just do a stitch in the ditch.
    Thanks so much Barb, now I feel like there is hope for me. Once I figure it out i will post my solution.
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    I would love to know the final outcome, did you solve the problem. I am starting the class in January and would like to learn all I can before I begin. Thanks

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    You seem to be exhausting all avenues, so I can only make a couple more suggestions.
    A needle with the largest eye possible. Wash the batik well in hot water, hopefully to soften. Turn the thread spool/cone upside down, it may remove the twist. If all else fails, try a good dose of silicone spray on the spool/cone. It will lubricate the thread, and will not stain the fabric. I have done this several times both on poly and cotton thread and it's worked miracles. I get mine at the hardward store, cheaper than the LQS (and some don't stock it). If that seems unbelievable, try it on scrap pieces first.
    Love to know how you solve this problem.

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    Hi Nancybugs, Unfortunately I was never able to solve the problem. I ended up turning all the supplies back into the quilt shop. I don't know if they ended up having anyone else work on it or not. It was a huge blow to my 'sewing self esteem' I can tell you. I have embroidered a bunch of other things since then using the same thread and have had sporadic issues, although I believe my machine absolutely hates anything but Finishing Touch bobbin thread. I hope you do not have the same issues as me, other ladies have responded that they didn't have these issues using the batiks. Good luck to you! It is a truly a magnificent and beautiful quilt. ~Paula
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    Hi Paula, I wondered about the bobbin. As I understand this so far you use the same thread in the bobbin as the top. I use a 40 wt in the top and a 60 wt in the bobbin. I have thought this may be a problem, I will soon find out. I am so sorry you had to return yours, would you consider trying again? Thank you for your help. Nancy

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    i have used a lighter weight but same coloured thread in my bobbin for hoopsister projects. the idea is to make the back look as nice as the front and not give myself conniptions :-). it has worked out quite well for me and i seem to pick out mostly batiks for my projects.

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    That has made me feel better about this project. Sometimes I study to much and scare myself. Thank you, Nancy

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