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    Question for you Longarmers

    When you are doing a continuous pattern (pantograph) on a quilt. do you usually go from outer edge to outer edge or do you stop at the borders and quilt them differently? I have been trying to stop at the borders and there have been a few times that I really got involved and went right on through. I hate to rip. Any suggestions?
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    I never stop at borders, if I'm doing a pantograph. But if I wanted to, I would just mark where the borders start by placing a piece of paper on top of the pantograph at that point. Can't get carried away, if you can't see the pattern This is what I do to mark the edge of the quilt all the time, so I don't waste time/thread quilting backing fabric alone.

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    I don't do pantographs, but I have noticed that most longarmers who quilt for others have separate prices for pantograph or pantograph with separate border treatment. That makes me think that it's pretty common to stop at the borders, or not, your choice.

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    I never stop at the borders with a pantogragh.you can -but pantos are designed to be an edge to edge design.
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    I rarely do pantos but when i do I go end to end and don't stop at borders.

    Here is a good trick. Go to wallmart and buy yourself a clear vinyl shower curtain liner. Cut it down to the width of your LA table (it won't be long enough you will have to cut two pieces. One curtain will be ample for a 12 ft table. Tape the vinyl to your table at the top ONLY so it is like a flap. When you place your panto lift your vinyl flap and put your panto under then bring the clear vinyl over your panto. Now you have a clear vinyl protector for your pantos. You can put a piece of painters tape down over the vinyl where you are to stop and and start and it helps keep your panto clean and protected.

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    We bought clear medium weight vinyl to put over the pantos to protect the pattern.
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    I just finished binding a quilt that has a 2 inch border. I decided not to use the panto on the border, and it looks kinda floppy. This is only about the 5th quilt I have done on my Tin Lizzie so I am still learning. Getting ready to load a Carpenters Star and free motion feather quilt per Patchwork Times tut. Wish me luck.
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    If I'm using a pantograph, I go edge-to-edge. If not, the borders are usually separate. Good luck!
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    If I wanted that look then I would continue with the continuous panto into the border.

    However, with some quilts I want to do the borders directionally or different.

    It all d epends on the quilt and what I want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feline fanatic View Post
    I rarely do pantos but when i do I go end to end and don't stop at borders.

    Here is a good trick. Go to wallmart and buy yourself a clear vinyl shower curtain liner. Cut it down to the width of your LA table (it won't be long enough you will have to cut two pieces. One curtain will be ample for a 12 ft table. Tape the vinyl to your table at the top ONLY so it is like a flap. When you place your panto lift your vinyl flap and put your panto under then bring the clear vinyl over your panto. Now you have a clear vinyl protector for your pantos. You can put a piece of painters tape down over the vinyl where you are to stop and and start and it helps keep your panto clean and protected.
    A clear piece of plastic came with my machine and table to protect my pantographs so I didn't have to worry about that or they would probably look like some of my cookbooks.hehehehe! Thanks for all of the advice. since I've never really seen a whole lot of machine quilting, I am just full of questions.
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    I prefer to go edge to edge with a panto, but I have one customer that insists I do them border to border and then a separate design in the border. This requires SID around the border and so she gets charged a semi-custom price rather than a panto price. I use the blue painter's tape on top of my panto to mark the beginning and end.

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    I have done pantos edge to edge (usual way) and just inside the border. Its harder to stop at the border. I never got a really nice stop altho I did get better as I went along. To me, doing the border separately is more of a custom thing. I only have a few customers and really don't have a specialized price list, but if I did this on a more regular basis, I would charge more. Its just fussier.
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    Pantographs are meant to be used edge to edge, but it's definitely your choice.

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    Pantos are considered and edge to edge (E2E) pattern and meant to be quilted all the way across. If you want to stop at the borders, use your laser light to figure out where you want to stop on the paper and place a ruler or some other marker there, that way you will know when to stop. I have to do this when quilting edge to edge because I will run right off since panto tend to send me off the dream land...Yawn...
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    I always treat borders differently......I like a quilt to look like a quilt not a mattress cover.......Just how I do things. Anyway....I will do whatever to the top border......sid on seam that separates border from body of quilt.....then on the panto, since I have a clear plastic flap under which I place the panto, I use either blue painters tape to mark beginning and end or if I have to sort of fudge the design to blend better I will use a wipe marker in blue....not permanent type, I use the the kind that needs a damp cloth to remove....so that's what I do...then when it comes to bottom border, again sid in seam....and sew in border, if it is the type that has a top and bottom, I will flip it...oh, as I go along doing the mid section, I will sid the side seams and machine baste the side edges as I go.....then, I remove the sandwich......straighten out the side edges.......leaving about 1" of batt/back extending...for pinning to top/bottom rollers..attach to rollers and do those borders........I prefer doing it that way...others have other ways, but we all find what works best for us and this has been my way for over 10 yrs......

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