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Thread: Thread Question?????

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    Super Member bamamama's Avatar
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    I am just about to starat quilting my very first customer quilt and the thread she chose was a very colorful varigated thread that looks beautiful with the fabrics in the quilt. the backing material is white and we are using a white bobbin thread. The back looks like a dot to dot......is that acceptable in the world of Long Arm Quilting? I think it looks cool, you don't see stitches on the back, just colorful dots.

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    best to ask her, I would not like it on my quilt, I wold rather have same thread top/bottom

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    Did she choose the white bobbin thread? I agree with kathy, I'm a fan of the same thread on top and bottom. Check with her. That way if she ends up hating it, it'll be her fault not yours :D :D We don't want to see a post about how a woman sent her quilt to a LA and the LA didn't tell her about the colored dots appearing on the back :D

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    IMHO the bottom thread used should have been variegated too. I wouldn't want that on the back of my quilt. I match the top and bottom threads to avoid tension issues like this.

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    if dot's are showing through it is a sign the tension was just a bit 'off' and customer may be very unhappy; better contact her right away and show her to see if it is acceptable or not. i have had people happy with colors showing on their back and others who would rather change threads.

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    I would first try tightening up the top tension (or loosening the bottom tension) a tick at a time until those pokies disappear.

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    I assumed it was because the bobbin thread is so thin a 50 wt. That is what I was told I was suppose to use in the bobbin. The Top thread is a 40 weight. The top stitches look beautiful. I'll play with the tension a bit. I have not started quilting on the quilt yet.

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    you will have the best luck if your top and bottom thread are the same weight.

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    I called customer and let her know that I think we should use the same thread top and bottom and she agreed. I have the border done and its looking good so far. The stitches are beautiful in that varigated thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckcowl
    you will have the best luck if your top and bottom thread are the same weight.
    Is this something that's particular to a long arm machine?

    I've been wanting a longarm for a while now, but I always find something I don't like about them.

    If long arm machines are this persnickety about thread, maybe I'd better stay with my old Singer.

    It's hard work to haul a king size quilt through a domestic machine, but if I want to use perle cotton in the bobbin and size 100 silk in the top, I can do it. :) All my machines know that they'd dern well better sew what I give them to sew or they're out the door. :lol:

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    Pokies aren't such a good thing. Tension problems. Even if this customer doesn't mind, she may show it to someone who has another opinion. If you are in this for a business, every quilt you put out is your "business card" so to speak. (And that's a thought that makes me tremble at times!!) :roll:

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    Could adjusting the tension keep you from seeing colored dots in this situation. My stitches looked pretty good, I thinks it was because the top thread was so much heavier than the bottom thread not to mention the color difference. Thin White on bottom and Heavy Brightly colored varigated on top. I'm not sure I could have made them totally disappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepolyparrot
    Quote Originally Posted by ckcowl
    you will have the best luck if your top and bottom thread are the same weight.
    Is this something that's particular to a long arm machine?

    I've been wanting a longarm for a while now, but I always find something I don't like about them.

    If long arm machines are this persnickety about thread, maybe I'd better stay with my old Singer.

    I am learning that tension is different than on a regular machine. You have to make alot of adjustments to the tention due to threads, batting and maybe even the fabric. I'm ordering extra bobbin casings today for specific thread because that is the hardest to adjust.

    It's hard work to haul a king size quilt through a domestic machine, but if I want to use perle cotton in the bobbin and size 100 silk in the top, I can do it. :) All my machines know that they'd dern well better sew what I give them to sew or they're out the door. :lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamamama
    Could adjusting the tension keep you from seeing colored dots in this situation.
    If it were a domestic sewing machine, getting the tensions balanced would eliminate the needle thread being pulled to the bobbin side of the quilt.

    On a long arm... I don't know.

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    I wonder if the "dots" on the back don't have more to do with 2 different threads rather than tension? I think if you are using 2 different types of thread "dots" are pretty common. From talking with long arm quilters, they try to use the same thread on the top and the bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamamama
    Could adjusting the tension keep you from seeing colored dots in this situation. My stitches looked pretty good, I thinks it was because the top thread was so much heavier than the bottom thread not to mention the color difference. Thin White on bottom and Heavy Brightly colored varigated on top. I'm not sure I could have made them totally disappear.
    I just finished a quilt-jade on light back and natural on front. When I first started I got the pokies so changed the natural on the front for a slightly heavier natural thread to match the back weight and it worked out much better. I have always done same color back and front but this customer asked for those two contrasting colors. She picked it up today and was very happy. I could still see some evidence of a pokie here and there and showed her but she was not bothered and most of those errors go away once the quilt is washed. Still I try to do same front and back just because with the machine going in all different directions you are going to get some variation in tension--usually not noticible with same color thread.

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