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Thread: when to do the satin stitich question.....

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    This sounds like a duh kiind of :?: but I know there aren't any of those.... :wink:

    I'll be putting a satin (blanket) stitch around my cats and moon applique pieces.... I've been practicing. (I can't line the edge of the pieces up with the needle center--it's off center to be perfect) Anyway--I would of course do this after everything's sandwiched so it counts as quilting? Right? OR, it is something one does before it's sandwiched so it's not so puffy around those pieces? If I was doing it by hand--I'd do it just on the top....

    Is that clear as mud? :roll:

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    I have used fancy stitches around my projects after sandwiching it together and it works fine. Go for it.

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    Personally, I find satin stitch works fine just on the top before sandwiching, sometimes it kinda sticks on my machine, Practice on a sample piece which you have all three layers just to see if it works on your machine.

    PS have you got a clear plastic foot on so you can see where to line up.

    Hope that helps and is not as clear as mud LOL

    Elle

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    Okay, ladies--now I'm really confused. :lol: I do have a plastic foot, so that is good. I was just surprised it wasn't a centered thing. It sure looks cute on the practice piece I did. :D

    I can't help but feel it should be done before the sandwich. I'm using Warm and Natural, so it's not too thick anyway.... I'm still thinking. Maybe I'll go try a sample sandwich.

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    I usually do mine before being sandwiched together

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    I do mine just on top.

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    Karla, if you look on the clear plasic foot there is a black line, centre that up with the edge that you want to satin stitch, it will come out perfect.
    I think satin stitch looks lovely but I just do it on my top before sandwiching.

    Elle

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    Elle--there's no line on my foot. There's an indentation, but it's clear--too hard to follow. I think it's about 1/8" where it goes. I can try it again, and make a mark on the foot.

    I'm good at straight lines...but those curvy cat tails are going to be a challenge! :D

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    I always do just the top.
    Karla, I have a foot like yours that I use. I put a mark using a Sharpie. It comes off after a while and I just make another one when I have to.
    I'm sure you'll do fine.
    Just do some practice.
    Can't wait til it's done!

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    Thanks! You gals are terrific! I had answers before I was done with my tea! :D Oh how I love this place. :D

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    Before.

    To do nice satin stitch, it helps to tighten your bobbn thread. That frequently causes your top threads to be pulled and visible on the back.

    I recommend using a stabilizer under it, too, for a really smooth look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barnbum
    This sounds like a duh kiind of :?: but I know there aren't any of those.... :wink:

    I'll be putting a satin (blanket) stitch around my cats and moon applique pieces.... I've been practicing. (I can't line the edge of the pieces up with the needle center--it's off center to be perfect) Anyway--I would of course do this after everything's sandwiched so it counts as quilting? Right? OR, it is something one does before it's sandwiched so it's not so puffy around those pieces? If I was doing it by hand--I'd do it just on the top....

    Is that clear as mud? :roll:
    I'm no good at it... think I've already mentioned that but I think one normally does it before quilting. You'll likely need to use a stabilizer underneath to keep it from getting all puckery.
    I did do a satin stitch once on a small (place mat size) project, after it was layered, so it was like quilting. It turned out OK... except my satin stitch sucked.

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    I've done it both ways, if I'm using satin stitch around my appliqué I do it on the top alone first, then stitch around it once the quilt is sandwiched. If I am doing a buttonhole/blanket stitch around my appliqué, I do that when the quilt is sandwiched and it is part of the quilting. :)

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    Shadow--I thought they were all the same stitch. What's the difference between satin and blanket? What would I use for a stabilizer? Is that more stuff underneath?

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    http://www.embtreasures.com/articles...inStitches.htm
    http://www.ericas.com/projects/proj9701.htm
    Here are examples of the satin stitch and the blanket stitch.



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    auntluc! The bird is exactly what I want... how in the world did you do such a neat job on it?

    Here are my options... I practiced with 05. I like that one best. I can see now in my booklet where the satin stitches are much fuller. I don't want that. Too much thread! :roll:

    I'm learning.....

    Now, do I still need a stabilizer for the blanket stitch? Or, I think I'll try as Shadow suggested and see how it looks after sandwiched.

    I want to work on the piece over my break!! There's so much to learn first! Wah!!

    :roll:
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    Karla....first of all I didn't do the appliques shown. They are pictures from websites that I found showing the difference in the stitch. I did edit my post to include the links and if you check them out it gives you some good instructions on doing each stitch.
    I don't know about the stabilizer question as I've only done one small applique piece in my whole life.
    Babeegirl did a tutorial on using dryer sheets for applique...maybe she could tell you if you could use that method for the cats.

    http://www.quiltingboard.com/posts/list/12414.page

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Dancer
    I've done it both ways, if I'm using satin stitch around my appliqué I do it on the top alone first, then stitch around it once the quilt is sandwiched. If I am doing a buttonhole/blanket stitch around my appliqué, I do that when the quilt is sandwiched and it is part of the quilting. :)
    Shadow, what a super idea, I never thought to leave this applique stitch until it is all layered up, thats clever!!! :thumbup: :thumbup:

    Karla, I have done quite alot of applique, and I use various stitches to edge it including the blanket stitch, like you are going to use,infact I have just started another project and I never use stabliser if I use steam a seam, it gives enough stiffness without any puckering. :D

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    I use an open toe foot so I can see exactly where my needle is falling, and with the blanket stitch I dont usually use a stabalizer. With satin stitch it is a MUST!!!! The only concern I would have with appliqueing after it is sandwiched is if you have alot of detail to go around, you would have all that extra bulk to contend with. I think just learning you might want to do it before you sandwich.

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    When you are going around the cats tails be sure you have the needle down on the outside when you turn.

    Hopefully that makes sense.

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    I'm glad Izy, Mgshaw & Mary came along to answer your questions Karla...I was treading water and about to sink. lol.

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    I don't use any stablilizer if I've used wonder under to hold the piece down. Kinda hard to get a piece of stabilizer in there, don't you think?

    Karla....05 is what I use. Just go S L O W and keep needle down when turning, picking your foot up. (foot on machine, not foot on your leg :) )
    Turn ever so slightly and you'll have it done in no time.
    YOu could take a practice cat and try on that to see how you would do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlrnhi
    I don't use any stablilizer if I've used wonder under to hold the piece down. Kinda hard to get a piece of stabilizer in there, don't you think?

    Karla....05 is what I use. Just go S L O W and keep needle down when turning, picking your foot up. (foot on machine, not foot on your leg :) )
    Turn ever so slightly and you'll have it done in no time.
    YOu could take a practice cat and try on that to see how you would do.


    :lol: :lol: Silly Terri!! The stabalizer goes under the background fabric and is torn off when finished.

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    I know, silly Melissa!
    But she already has it "glued" down, so she cannot use stabilizer. :)

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    I use stabalizer with satin stitch when I use fusible. You put it behind the entire piece, under the background fabric. :D Does this make sense? Not sure I am explaining it right.

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