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Old 06-01-2012, 02:31 AM
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I have an opportunity to purchase a used long-arm machine. The good news is that it is only 4 hours away. The bad news is that it is 4 hours away!!

It is in a center and their hours are the same hours that I work. I can take a day's vacation to go there, but I'm not happy about it. Seems to me that if they want to sell it, they can take an hour out of their weekend to show it. But oh well. So I have to take a day off work and it would have to be a day that my husband is off-work too, which is a Tuesday or a Friday. The roofers are coming out those days next week, so it would have to be the week after next.

My dad has a Dodge Durango that he is happy to loan out, and even offered to drive me down there. But then we realized that a 12 ft table won't fit in that. So I got a pick-up truck. But it's not going to fit in there either, unless the table breaks down. The woman that I talked to doesn't know much about it.. just that we need to come and look at it, etc, etc. Well, I don't want to drive the no airconditioning pick up down there just to find out that it wont fit! I figured for sure that the table will break down. It's an older NuStyle frame and machine. And I just thought about it.. if it doesn't break down, it's not going to fit in the house! I know that grace frame that I had came in a gazillion pieces but when I sold it, we tried to keep it together as much as possible so 1- we didn't have to take it apart 2- it fit in her SUV 3- she wouldn't have as much to put together.

If I have to rent a truck, that will cost between $3-400 so it takes the "great" out of "great deal"! However, if I just get the 23inch machine, take my convertible, save on gas, bring it home, buy a used frame locally for $300 and hope that frame supports that machine.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:32 AM
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I would recommend using the frame which comes with the machine, even if it doesn't break down. My Gammill frame does not break down, and that is what makes it so stable. Stability is very important in a frame. I would also recommend calling them to find out the exact measurements of the frame, including the thickness at the thickest part, and make a cardboard mockup to use to try getting it into the house the way you think it will fit. Then you will know better if you can proceed. It's what we did. If you don't have large pieces of cardboard (remember you can't bend the cardboard at all during the exercise) you can get them from somewhere that sells large appliances like refrigerators, etc. And then ducttape the pieces to make your cardboard "frame". Good luck to you! Hope you can get it!
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:20 AM
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I hope I can too. It looks like my best plan would be to drive the convertible down, try it out and rent a truck (one way) there and bring it home.
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On my Innova the rollers are all full length. I agree with justabitcrazy in that a stable frame makes all the difference in the world and is critical to successful LAQ. I doubt the dealer/sewing center will offer up the machine without the frame.
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If you have a hitch for what your driving rent a u haul trailer. I agree about the mock up to make sure it's going to fit. It's allot easier to find out b4 you buy.
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Can you use the red flag on the end like when transporting lumber? If you had a long stable board (you don't want a bend in the rails) you could duct tape the long rails to it and you could put it as far into the truck bed as you could. I would put the tail gate up to rest the extra on, with a flag fastened to the board. Good luck.
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If you have a hitch for what your driving rent a u haul trailer. I agree about the mock up to make sure it's going to fit. It's allot easier to find out b4 you buy.
I just had one of those V8 moments!! I could use one of those cargo trailers!! They're only $30 and I think I can even afford that!!
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Here is the manufacturer's website: http://nustylequilting.webs.com/quiltingmachines.htm

Call them and see what they suggest. If it looks anything like the machines they are setting up now, yes you can just take the machine and dump the frame. It is also possible that the frame it currently is being sold with is not the original. Can someone send you some pictures so you know?

Unless this is a super good deal & this is one of the more modern machines that Nustyle is selling & servicing now--I wouldn't be putting in for a vacation day. Some of the first Nustyle machines were iron monsters with the oil drip pan below.
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Here is the manufacturer's website: http://nustylequilting.webs.com/quiltingmachines.htm

Call them and see what they suggest. If it looks anything like the machines they are setting up now, yes you can just take the machine and dump the frame. It is also possible that the frame it currently is being sold with is not the original. Can someone send you some pictures so you know?

Unless this is a super good deal & this is one of the more modern machines that Nustyle is selling & servicing now--I wouldn't be putting in for a vacation day. Some of the first Nustyle machines were iron monsters with the oil drip pan below.
It is a NuStyle 230 which they don't sell anymore. I hope the picture shows up. I can't find much about them. They still carry parts for it, so that's good. The only other info I've seen is what you've put on the QB!
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The poles will come off and the side pieces the poles fit into. The poles will probably be the longest single pieces and they can easily be tied together and tossed into a pickup unless the base if the frame has all been welded together. It's not one of the ancient, oil dripping, cast iron behemoths but it does appear to be made specifically for the frame it is sitting on so putting the head unit on a different frame will probably need extensive modifications.

I can see the start/stop button on the right handle (front & back) but I would ask about a speed controller. It may be a "full-steam ahead" type. I doubt it has stitch length regulation or that a 3rd party product can be added for stitch length control. That is probably what most new users need the most unless they have the time & patience to teach themselves to self-regulate their stitch length. Some people seem to be able to just see/hear/feel the right movements & timing and people that learned on one of these older machines make the rest of us look incompetent--LOL. Unless you are truly determined to learn & have no problem teaching yourself--I would not buy this machine--much less lose a days vacation & rent a truck/trailer to go after it. Unless you live near Stover, MO and can drop in on the Nustyle folks often--I think you will be setting yourself up for disappointment. You maybe one of those "I can do anything or die trying" people and then it would be worth it if they are only wanting a couple hundred dollars for the setup.

I think you will be much happier saving your pennies for a more modern style of machine quilting system or even investing in one of the Juki/Brother/Janome/Pfaff/Babylock/Viking 9" straight-stitch machines & the $300 frame you found locally. That small setup has many more users that will be able to offer help & encouragement and you'll get a fine piecing machine if you later decide to upgrade or that machine-frame quilting just isn't your style.

The comment about the cardboard mockup made me think about something else. Do you have enough space in your home to setup a 12' frame? You'll need at least 13 x 4' of clear area and 14 x 6' would be better. My frame is currently setup at 10' and it is about 2' out from the wall on 2 sides so that I can get all the way around it.
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