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    but I didn't until yesterday. I took my 1st quilting class, and I was using one brand of 18" ruler (to cut strips out of my fabrics), and another brand to square it up with. My square was about 1/8" small all around. My seams were right on 1/4", but then the instructor noticed the brands were different. When we tried the same brand square-up ruler as the 18" one, my square was right on the size! Amazing! :roll: :-D

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    Thank you for that info. I frequently use more than one ruler. Hopefully this tip will help.

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    Yes, I've heard you should always buy the same brand of rulers that you have because there may be slight variations between brands. You'd think they'd all be the same size wouldn't you :?

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    The instructor said that it may be because of the width of the lines in the different rulers. One of my rulers had wider lines, so I tend to think that may be one reason for the different size.

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    My first block exchange was a simple 9 patch. I used the strip method of sewing the main color, next color, and main color again for the first set and they were fine but when I cut the cross pieces and sewed those together not the correct size. Realized after talking to another quilter in the swap that I should use the same brand rulers. Very frustrating for a newbie back then. It does make a difference.

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    I didn't know that but it surely makes sense. Thanks for the info

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    That's one of the first things that I was told to do: Use the SAME ruler for your project! It's saved me many times!

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    Yes, it does make a difference - I had to learn the hard way by using different brands. I have also learned to place the line on the ruler on top of my fabric, not butt the fabric up to the line. That way I cut a tiny bit large then sew a scant 1/4 inch seam. My blocks measure out much more accurate.

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    I didn't know that. Thanks, I will be more careful from now on

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    That is why I use Omnigrip for all of my measuring.

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    I have been using my husbands building rulers. I don't know what else to call them. He using them to build stuff. Anyhow, they are very accurate. Buy them at Home Depot or Lowes in the hardware section.

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    This is also why you shouldn't measure with your mat... Though I saw Ricky Tims do it on a video once! LOL

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    I'm glad you shared this information. I didn't know this!

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    WOW - thank you for that information - I never realized different rulers would measure things differently.

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    I've heard over and over that rulers can be different sizes, and not to use your mat, etc. But... I have checked my rulers, and they all agree that an inch is an inch, and my mat agrees with the rulers. I think the differences come about because of the different way the lines are marked, the coloration of the rulers, and other factors. I know I can see certain fabrics better using clear rulers, and for others the greenish rulers work better. Sometimes the thickness of the ruler interferes with the cut, because the lines are nearer the top of the ruler. The only "mat" I have found to be really off in the measurement was the June Taylor ironing station, which had a grid marked on top of the ironing surface, and that was WAY off.

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    I must admit I never actually checked mine. I generally use my 6" wide Omnigrip and if I need wider, I butt up my 6 1/2" square, also Omnigrip. I do also use my mat from time to time, if it's a larger piece there's more room for fudge factor. But as a matter of interest, I'm going to check all my rulers and mats. My DH will think I'm a right saddo, he already thinks I'm anal about these things! LOL

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    I could sense you were all waiting with baited breath so I hurried back... :lol: drum roll.... they're all exactly the same, Omnigrip, Olfa, Sew Easy, some strange brand I bought in France. No difference, so long as, like dunster said, you line the marks up right, ie in the centre of the line. :-D Thanks for starting this thread though, I'll stop stressing about how I measure now. :-D

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    I did not know that. Thanks for the info.

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    Thanks for the info.

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    great to know

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    And this is why when you start to peice a block you should always use the same foot and do not switch machines. :-D

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    Even 2 rulers made by the same company can be different, as well as 1 ruler when it's new and the same ruler when it's 5 years old. There can be slight slippage during manufacture that gets past quality control. You may "shave" the edge of your ruler each time you cut, thus changing it's measure with age. There is also a difference if you cut through several layers of fabric or 1 layer. Ever wonder why the same size clothes from the same brand fit differently? It's the fact that several layers of fabric compress. The top will normally be very slightly larger, even more so as your blade dulls. Learned this in design school 50 years ago. Oh, I still use multiple rulers, and my cutting mat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShirlinAZ
    Even 2 rulers made by the same company can be different, as well as 1 ruler when it's new and the same ruler when it's 5 years old. There can be slight slippage during manufacture that gets past quality control. You may "shave" the edge of your ruler each time you cut, thus changing it's measure with age. There is also a difference if you cut through several layers of fabric or 1 layer. Ever wonder why the same size clothes from the same brand fit differently? It's the fact that several layers of fabric compress. The top will normally be very slightly larger, even more so as your blade dulls. Learned this in design school 50 years ago. Oh, I still use multiple rulers, and my cutting mat!
    That IS interesting! I like to know stuff like this but, like you, I don't always follow it either! :-D

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    Hmmm--guess I'd better get off the board and go do a ruler check. No doubt, if I messed up, I'd figure it was my error and never associate the problem with using different ruler brands. Thanks for the heads up on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebbieJJ
    but I didn't until yesterday. I took my 1st quilting class, and I was using one brand of 18" ruler (to cut strips out of my fabrics), and another brand to square it up with. My square was about 1/8" small all around. My seams were right on 1/4", but then the instructor noticed the brands were different. When we tried the same brand square-up ruler as the 18" one, my square was right on the size! Amazing! :roll: :-D

    Hmmmm thanks that could very well be the problem i am having

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