It's only got a .5 AMP motor, so it's a tank but not what I'd consider industrial either...though you know sellers love a good tale:>
Miriam, you made sure to adjust the stitch width and turn on the zig zag lever and still no go? |
Originally Posted by Candace
It's only got a .5 AMP motor, so it's a tank but not what I'd consider industrial either...though you know sellers love a good tale:>
Miriam, you made sure to adjust the stitch width and turn on the zig zag lever and still no go? |
Originally Posted by miriam
Originally Posted by jz
That's good. Did you send out the motor to be rebuilt or did your husband do it himself? Is it expensive to have the motors rebuilt?
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I just found motor info in an old repair manual. http://parts.singerco.com/IPinstManuals/15-91.pdf
The motors are an awful lot alike. I think Bennett posted recently some links on the Vintage Sewing Machine Shop |
great find, finding the bobbin case.
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Originally Posted by hershery
great find, finding the bobbin case.
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Originally Posted by miriam
I just found motor info in an old repair manual. http://parts.singerco.com/IPinstManuals/15-91.pdf
The motors are an awful lot alike. I think Bennett posted recently some links on the Vintage Sewing Machine Shop |
Cant wait to see it up and running.
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I got one just like that today . How did you get the top off? bannie
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Originally Posted by Candace
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Are you sure thats's a 206 x 13 needle, Miriam? Your photo is a bit blurry, but it may not be. Lots of people stuck regular needles in these. Check your bobbin case. If it's all nicked up, chances are that's not the correct needle. Or at least it's really dull probably needs replacing anyway. I order mine online.
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Originally Posted by bannie
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I got one just like that today . How did you get the top off? bannie
http://parts.singerco.com/IPsvcManuals/306W25.pdf a link to a user's manual and a repair manual - this covers all "swing needles" http://parts.singerco.com/IPsvcManuals/306W25.pdf |
Originally Posted by miriam
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It is to keep the gears lubricated. The pot just had a couple screws holding it on. I pulled them off and cleaned the grease out with a screw driver end - then I painted it with the kerosene and turned it a bit to wash it out good inside where I can't see. Lots of goo came out of there. I painted until it ran clean again. I'll pack it full of grease when I get that far. You all have to stay tuned in a week or two for part 2 of the continuing saga of 'Mr Ed the 319w before his time sewing machine'. I am fascinated by the engineering on the older zig zag machines. Each one is unique isn't it? I'm pretty sure I need to do something to the stitch length regulator - it doesn't travel.
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You did a great service to an old veteran of the sewing wars. You gave it a new lease on life. How does it sew now?
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I am waiting on an order from Sew Classic - I need the needle and a belt, etc
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Wow! What a transformation. Underneath that layer of grime was a real beauty.
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Lots of hard work and elbow grease but once you sit down to sew on it, you will
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Bloomin' Iris came over today and we got Mr. Ed's tension apart and put back together. It took 5 tries to get the spring in the right place but we got it. Then we figured out the zig zag adjuster. I'm waiting on some needles from Sew-Classic - then I have to put the needle bar back together. It is made with some kind of little plug in the hole and I haven't quite figured that out yet. Anybody know much? Mr. Ed's cabinet front is really a door. Behind the door is a big hole on the left. To change the bobbin you reach in through the hole in the front and change it. I don't think it can be changed from the slide plate with out being an acrobat with a very small hand. I shot a pic of the tension off and then after we replaced it - let's see if it loads.
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Miriam, you can change the bobbin by removing the plate. But, the paint will get chipped over time, doing it that way.
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pictures are kind of blurry but we did get it on and the tension seems to do what it should do. Mr Ed still needs some fine clean up. So it will be q tip work for a while - lots of dirty little corners and such. There is still more gunk on the stitch selector slide - seems like even a few specks keep things from moving well.
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Originally Posted by Candace
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Miriam, you can change the bobbin by removing the plate. But, the paint will get chipped over time, doing it that way.
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Iris and I also looked at the bobbin case. Candace, you were right someone was using the wrong needle and the bobbin case is all torn up. We worked on the burrs a bit - it is going to take more than I was able to do with what was on hand. The needle plate was a bit torn up as well. I also noticed the rod the tension goes on is not quite horizontal so one day will have to tackle that. Then we looked at the electric parts - Iris thinks I need to scrap them & put Mr. Ed in a treadle. He does have a VERY fine cabinet though - one of the best I have ever seen for an electric.... I wonder if a hand crank would go on there?
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Wow Miriam, that was awesome. The pictures really make sense. Thank you! Another thread to bookmark now! I wonder if I can still pickup wifi from my garage when I get ready to clean mom's machine. I think that's what I'm going to name her "mom's".
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Iris and I worked cleaning on Mr. Ed's tension. The 319 user's manual was incorrect on putting the tension back together - at least we kept it in order when we pulled it off - it is still crooked though and that will drive me nuts. I looked up more information so we can set it in right - of course, I haven't done it yet - but I like to look up how to so I can get it back together. Anyway here is some information on tensions. http://vssmb.blogspot.com/2011/07/do...sion.html#more look under #2 refurbishing - tension mechanism then look for a tension that looks like your machine's tension. This blog was helpful as well http://vssmb.blogspot.com/
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Miriam, you sure it's incorrect? The 319 tension has that flat disc in the middle, I believe for twin needle stitching.
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It is that way in the manual but when we took it apart that flat piece was in the back. It could be for twin needles but what does the whole mess rest on? Have you got any idea how to get the needle holder thingy back together?
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PM me with your e-mail addy. I'll try to get you a picture today. I've taken both of mine apart for cleaning and reassembly.
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Thanks so much for showing us the "evolution of a vintage machine". She looks great now. I'm sure once she gets her motor she will run forever.
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Originally Posted by Candace
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PM me with your e-mail addy. I'll try to get you a picture today. I've taken both of mine apart for cleaning and reassembly.
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Ok - Candace says the correct needles are shorter than average needles. Someone tried to raise the needle holder higher up the shaft and use regular needles. No wonder the bobbin case is so chewed up. I can see that someone fooled with the tension so Iris and I are going to have to do it again - maybe this time get the shaft straightened out. Iris - all that work was for practice. DH is such an enabler - he stopped up the 2 inch gap under the old door and put bubble wrap over it so we stay warmer out there. Then he put a door knob on the other door and insulated the holes. Then he found a heater. Then he found a piece of plywood for me to use on top of old sewing table legs - we swiped the top to put the 401g in the treadle.
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Here's a perfect link and shows how the 206 x 13 needle compares to regular needles. http://sewing-machines.blogspot.com/...n-needles.html
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Wow - thanks for the needle info Candace - I hope nobody messed with the timing on that machine. I got my order for needles but I haven't gotten it reassembled yet. (We worked on a Japanese 15 clone yesterday - I was amazed at how quickly that one cleaned up and running beautifully. It is a very simple machine so not so much to do. Oh and we worked on a Singer FW and a Singer 99 and another 15 clone and we looked over an old electric Domestic - my lips are sealed on that one until I can do it justice. AND we played with a hand crank! My camera is dead so I am waiting on some pics from Iris or Hannah. Candace I have located some disks for the Singer 319 - I'll do the happy dance when I actually have them in my hot little hands.
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Not all machines come as gunked up as my Singer 319. Iris, Hannah and I did clean up a 15 clone very quickly yesterday. That machine was totally stuck - nothing moved. It didn't have a huge layer of oil but it had some. It didn't have a lot of rust but it had some. We were able to un-stick the machine with just a drop or two of Tri-flow on all the moving parts. We started at the bottom of the machine and worked our way everywhere. I was amazed at how much a drop of Tri-flo could do. We took apart the bobbin area - it was really easy, cleaned up lint, cleaned gunk off and polished rust off chrome parts with chrome cleaner and barkeeper's friend. Then we reassembled that bobbin area. Then we took off the nose plate and cleaned it up. We just did one part at a time and had it done in a short time. There is some oil left on the machine but it will wait until a nice day in the spring.
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Originally Posted by miriam
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Wow - thanks for the needle info Candace - I hope nobody messed with the timing on that machine. I got my order for needles but I haven't gotten it reassembled yet. (We worked on a Japanese 15 clone yesterday - I was amazed at how quickly that one cleaned up and running beautifully. It is a very simple machine so not so much to do. Oh and we worked on a Singer FW and a Singer 99 and another 15 clone and we looked over an old electric Domestic - my lips are sealed on that one until I can do it justice. AND we played with a hand crank! My camera is dead so I am waiting on some pics from Iris or Hannah. Candace I have located some disks for the Singer 319 - I'll do the happy dance when I actually have them in my hot little hands.
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My first sewing machine I named 'Mishka'. A lady I took care of said it means "little bear' in Russian". He is a bear to lift out of the cabinet and carry up the basement stairs for surviceing. He is a Kenmore with all metal parts {heavy}! He also is tough as a bear when it comes to sewing through jeans.
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I have been hassling with the needle bar clamp lately. I have already spent well over an hour messing with it. If anybody has any tips on putting it back together I sure would love to know what it is. I've been searching info on the timing/needle as well. I'll post info one of these days. Until I get the needle bar clamp back together I'm can't do anything else on this machine. It is no wonder Singer didn't make real many of these - I bet the repair men invented whole new languages of words for that needle bar clamp.
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I hope these pictures help those who've disassembled their needle clamp mechanism and can't get it back together. Now I'm an old pro at it, but luckily, the first time I did it, I had a second 319 there to cheat off of!
The first photo is of the side clamp showing the screw. This comes out first. Don't lose it! Right, Miriam? ;> |
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This is looking straight on at the assembly.
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When you remove the side screw, this is what it will look like.
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When you remove the clamp, there is a tiny piece inside. Note the location and orientation of the piece because it fits back in as is!
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Another shot of it.
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