CAllen ... as you know I know nothing about the 830, and am just getting comfy with my 820. Unlike you, I have no desire for the embroidery feature. However, here's a thought ... when I was at the dealer I met another lady with the same machine. She did not trade it for an 830 when she wanted to add on embroidery. Instead she got a Bernina, just for embroidery. I was puzzled and asked why she wouldn't have got the 830? BEcause it can take a long time to work their way thru the embroidery design, she can set up the embroidery and let it go ... and continue sewing while keeping an eye on the other machine. Made sense to me! Of course, all depends how much you will be embroidering whether this is important ... or overkill!