I am just jealous of you all. I stopped on a whim yesterday (I really shouldn't do this) at a pawn shop. Just to see if they had any sewing machines. Low and behold I looked up (not what I wanted) and there was a Phoenix 83, German made. $60.00 with just about everything to it. It's still there and if it's still there after Christmas, I may go back. Just not what I really want. I really want to save my money for what I want. Oh well!