Yes. My current work is a Vintage Rose of Judy Niemeyer. It has a large arc for a petal and one for the other side. I lost count of how many times I've ripped out the same seam!! I'm not a newbie at her patterns. This is #3 of her patterns. But holy cow. I had at least 3 days last week where I have sewn all day and made no progress. Sew a little, rip a little.