Copyright on a lone star block?
12-25-2017, 07:46 AM
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HudsonsBend...I appreciate you sharing how you did the stars. I love EQ, but haven't tried to design a lone star quilt. Now you are making me want to. I have a lot of batiks that would really go good in one. Thanks for the inspiration....
12-25-2017, 10:46 AM
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quilt designs have been around for hundreds of years. so many people on this planet, one cannot help but duplicate others work from time to time. making money off it would be the only offense. Get back to quilting. you did a wonderful job!
12-25-2017, 11:33 AM
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This copyright thing is way out of hand. The idea that someone can tell you what you can do with a product that they sell to you is ludicrous. If you buy a quilt pattern from someone, you can use that pattern any way you choose (other than copying the pattern itself and reselling it). You can give it to your mom, you can burn it in the fireplace or you can make confetti out of it.
What makes it ludicrous is that copyright exists under federal law. Who, exactly do you think might enforce this rule that pattern makers (writers, fabric designers, etc) think exists that allows them to dictate what people do with their copyright? Do they think they can go to the assistant attorney general and he/she will go to court and get an injunction that prevents you from selling a quilt you made? Equally ludicrous is that many individuals who design patterns don't actually copyright them. Just saying something is copyrighted (or putting a copyright symbol on it) does not make it copyrighted. You have to actually fill out the paperwork, have a sample, file it and pay the fee. A trademark can exist that has not be registered, but a copyright cannot be. What really makes it stupid of those who claim copyright rights, is that you can change the color, the size, bind it on the bias or anything, and it would not be copyrighted (it's not anyway). It's like a copyrighted recipe. You can change the amount of salt by 1/4 tsp. and it's not a copy of the recipe. You can call it yours, print it in a magazine and sell it on the street corner. The same would be true of quilts. It would have to be an exact copy even if the copyright extended that far.
From what I've read online, this "copyright" thing has mushroomed into all the questions that keep on coming is Etsy. Apparently, Etsy has taken down some handmade items because someone(s) have complained that they hold a copyright on a pattern, therefore the item made from their pattern is an infringement of their copyright.
Apparently, it's encouraged some people to claim rights they do not have. Just do a search for "first sale doctrine". It's pretty clear.
bkay
What makes it ludicrous is that copyright exists under federal law. Who, exactly do you think might enforce this rule that pattern makers (writers, fabric designers, etc) think exists that allows them to dictate what people do with their copyright? Do they think they can go to the assistant attorney general and he/she will go to court and get an injunction that prevents you from selling a quilt you made? Equally ludicrous is that many individuals who design patterns don't actually copyright them. Just saying something is copyrighted (or putting a copyright symbol on it) does not make it copyrighted. You have to actually fill out the paperwork, have a sample, file it and pay the fee. A trademark can exist that has not be registered, but a copyright cannot be. What really makes it stupid of those who claim copyright rights, is that you can change the color, the size, bind it on the bias or anything, and it would not be copyrighted (it's not anyway). It's like a copyrighted recipe. You can change the amount of salt by 1/4 tsp. and it's not a copy of the recipe. You can call it yours, print it in a magazine and sell it on the street corner. The same would be true of quilts. It would have to be an exact copy even if the copyright extended that far.
From what I've read online, this "copyright" thing has mushroomed into all the questions that keep on coming is Etsy. Apparently, Etsy has taken down some handmade items because someone(s) have complained that they hold a copyright on a pattern, therefore the item made from their pattern is an infringement of their copyright.
Apparently, it's encouraged some people to claim rights they do not have. Just do a search for "first sale doctrine". It's pretty clear.
bkay
12-25-2017, 11:55 AM
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This copyright thing is way out of hand. The idea that someone can tell you what you can do with a product that they sell to you is ludicrous. If you buy a quilt pattern from someone, you can use that pattern any way you choose (other than copying the pattern itself and reselling it). You can give it to your mom, you can burn it in the fireplace or you can make confetti out of it.
What makes it ludicrous is that copyright exists under federal law. Who, exactly do you think might enforce this rule that pattern makers (writers, fabric designers, etc) think exists that allows them to dictate what people do with their copyright? Do they think they can go to the assistant attorney general and he/she will go to court and get an injunction that prevents you from selling a quilt you made? Equally ludicrous is that many individuals who design patterns don't actually copyright them. Just saying something is copyrighted (or putting a copyright symbol on it) does not make it copyrighted. You have to actually fill out the paperwork, have a sample, file it and pay the fee. A trademark can exist that has not be registered, but a copyright cannot be. What really makes it stupid of those who claim copyright rights, is that you can change the color, the size, bind it on the bias or anything, and it would not be copyrighted (it's not anyway). It's like a copyrighted recipe. You can change the amount of salt by 1/4 tsp. and it's not a copy of the recipe. You can call it yours, print it in a magazine and sell it on the street corner. The same would be true of quilts. It would have to be an exact copy even if the copyright extended that far.
From what I've read online, this "copyright" thing has mushroomed into all the questions that keep on coming is Etsy. Apparently, Etsy has taken down some handmade items because someone(s) have complained that they hold a copyright on a pattern, therefore the item made from their pattern is an infringement of their copyright.
Apparently, it's encouraged some people to claim rights they do not have. Just do a search for "first sale doctrine". It's pretty clear.
bkay
What makes it ludicrous is that copyright exists under federal law. Who, exactly do you think might enforce this rule that pattern makers (writers, fabric designers, etc) think exists that allows them to dictate what people do with their copyright? Do they think they can go to the assistant attorney general and he/she will go to court and get an injunction that prevents you from selling a quilt you made? Equally ludicrous is that many individuals who design patterns don't actually copyright them. Just saying something is copyrighted (or putting a copyright symbol on it) does not make it copyrighted. You have to actually fill out the paperwork, have a sample, file it and pay the fee. A trademark can exist that has not be registered, but a copyright cannot be. What really makes it stupid of those who claim copyright rights, is that you can change the color, the size, bind it on the bias or anything, and it would not be copyrighted (it's not anyway). It's like a copyrighted recipe. You can change the amount of salt by 1/4 tsp. and it's not a copy of the recipe. You can call it yours, print it in a magazine and sell it on the street corner. The same would be true of quilts. It would have to be an exact copy even if the copyright extended that far.
From what I've read online, this "copyright" thing has mushroomed into all the questions that keep on coming is Etsy. Apparently, Etsy has taken down some handmade items because someone(s) have complained that they hold a copyright on a pattern, therefore the item made from their pattern is an infringement of their copyright.
Apparently, it's encouraged some people to claim rights they do not have. Just do a search for "first sale doctrine". It's pretty clear.
bkay
Your work is under copyright protection the moment it is created and fixed in a tangible form that it is perceptible either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.
12-26-2017, 01:58 PM
#19
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Beautiful work. I had a class in Lone Star using the www.quiltsmart.com fusion pattern that was very simple to follow. They also have other pieced patterns that can be completed the same way. This helps to be accurate in getting all cut right way and sewing all together the right way. Sadly, I have not finished my yet...its a UFO.
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