Go Back  Quiltingboard Forums > Main
rights to sell? >

rights to sell?

rights to sell?

Thread Tools
 
Old 01-30-2011, 06:13 AM
  #1  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
brookemarie19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 1,501
Default

Ok ladies and fellas, I have a question for you. How do you know if you are allowed to sell a quilt that you have made from other people patterns? I have went to a couple of sights and can't find anywhere if they are allowed to be sold or not. I don't want to run into any copyright issues, but don't know what is or isnt allowed. Tried to do a search for this, but just kept finding stuff that was just about getting a pattern copyrighted, but that isn't what I'm looking for.
brookemarie19 is offline  
Old 01-30-2011, 06:15 AM
  #2  
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,455
Default

I am not sure but I have sold finished quilts and quilt tops from other peoples patterns. I thought that is why they sell the pattern. But I could definitely be wrong, sorry I couldn't help more :-(
thequiltmama is offline  
Old 01-30-2011, 06:16 AM
  #3  
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 7,286
Default

Yes you can. This has been asked over and over on this forum. Just search for Copyright. Or better yet, check here

http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/...ndQuilts.shtml

http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/...rnsIndex.shtml
gaigai is offline  
Old 01-30-2011, 06:31 AM
  #4  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
brookemarie19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 1,501
Default

Ok, on those sights I see that patterns cannot be copied and sold. I know that, but there is no where that it says whether I can sell a quilt made using their patterns. If I do, then would I need to put where that pattern was gotten from on a tag or something for these?
brookemarie19 is offline  
Old 01-30-2011, 06:52 AM
  #5  
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 7,286
Default

Originally Posted by brookemarie19
Ok, on those sights I see that patterns cannot be copied and sold. I know that, but there is no where that it says whether I can sell a quilt made using their patterns. If I do, then would I need to put where that pattern was gotten from on a tag or something for these?
No, read further. No, you can't copy the pattern and sell it, but YES you can make a quilt from a pattern and sell it. Permission to do that is implied in the sale of the pattern. Read further, and check out Tabberone's messages posted here on the board:

http://www.quiltingboard.com/user_po...um=7907&page=1

In the Supreme Court ruling, Baker v Selden, 101 US 99 (1879), the court stated that a claimed copyright on "patterns for cutting dresses and basques for ladies, and coats, jackets" was "printed and published for information, and not for use in themselves" and the copyright owner could not control the making of the clothing items.
gaigai is offline  
Old 01-30-2011, 06:57 AM
  #6  
Super Member
 
mommamac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Coast of Maine
Posts: 2,926
Default

In the Supreme Court ruling, Baker v Selden, 101 US 99 (1879), the court stated that a claimed copyright on "patterns for cutting dresses and basques for ladies, and coats, jackets" was "printed and published for information, and not for use in themselves" and the copyright owner could not control the making of the clothing items.[/quote]

So, how does using licensed fabric play into this?
mommamac is offline  
Old 01-30-2011, 07:06 AM
  #7  
Super Member
 
mamaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Maine
Posts: 1,914
Default

I think the laws for such stuff are so very confusing. I got in trouble for offering to share a pattern from an older magazine on here; but yet, people can resell patterns,books, and magazines for money. Go figure!!!! That is what patterns are for, so we can make them.
mamaw is offline  
Old 01-30-2011, 07:12 AM
  #8  
bj
Super Member
 
bj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Ft. Worth, Texas
Posts: 3,674
Default

Originally Posted by mamaw
I think the laws for such stuff are so very confusing. I got in trouble for offering to share a pattern from an older magazine on here; but yet, people can resell patterns,books, and magazines for money. Go figure!!!! That is what patterns are for, so we can make them.
I'm no expert, and I don't sell my quilts, but the distinction may be the difference between reselling the actual pattern or selling or sharing a copy of the pattern. But I don't know for sure.
bj is offline  
Old 01-30-2011, 07:47 AM
  #9  
Junior Member
 
ArtisticDesign's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 278
Default

I hesitate to bring this up because I don't know all of my facts..But I was just reading about this on someone's quilting site yesterday ( don't even know the date that it was written).. uuugh I can't remember who's, I do believe it was a blog....This person sold her patterns and or fabric etc, her site's very popular...
Anyway, she had dedicated a whole page on the subject of some recent McCalls article..Where McCalls made some kind of statement that from now on if someone had intentions of making money from selling a quilt/quilt show etc from a designers pattern...They had to first get written permission from the designer...
The lady had been flooded with emails (as had been many designers) asking if it were true and or for written permission... The lady was very upset about that article and said to consider this her "Blanket Statement of permission to use any of her patterns with the intent to sell ( the quilt made from her pattern Not the pattern itself)....All that she asked was that you gave credit to the pattern designer on the quilt lable and she posted an example ( the example also acknowledged the quilt makers longarmer)..Advising we do this with all lables
Another blogger had posted to her that a popular quilting show in her area had just let it be known that they would be following the rules from that McCalls article and checking permission slips...
Personally I would aknowledge the designer on my lable and make sure to read the rules of any quilt show enteries...I don't see how they could enforce this anyway...

Please note that I am paraphrasing heavily here as well as having just woken up and have not had my second cup of coffee yet (laugh)... If anyone knows of this McCalls article or this site ..Do feel free to correct me... I'll look for the site I read all this on and post the link If I find it...
:: stumbling off toward the coffee pot>>>
ArtisticDesign is offline  
Old 01-30-2011, 08:06 AM
  #10  
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 7,286
Default

Originally Posted by ArtisticDesign
Please note that I am paraphrasing heavily here as well as having just woken up and have not had my second cup of coffee yet (laugh)... If anyone knows of this McCalls article or this site ..Do feel free to correct me... I'll look for the site I read all this on and post the link If I find it...
:: stumbling off toward the coffee pot>>>
Here is the article and information about it from tabberone giving the facts.

http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/...ompanies.shtml
gaigai is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
BettyGee
Main
84
02-23-2015 10:18 AM
pacquilter
Main
67
04-28-2012 01:47 AM
bluebird
General Chit-Chat (non-quilting talk)
25
10-25-2011 09:14 AM
ButtercreamCakeArtist
Main
21
12-18-2010 01:38 PM
Quilt Ministry Leader
General Chit-Chat (non-quilting talk)
57
09-26-2010 04:54 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



FREE Quilting Newsletter