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Thread: Comparison of LeMoyne Star and Eight-Pointed Star Blocks

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    Comparison of LeMoyne Star and Eight-Pointed Star Blocks

    They are similar, but not the same.

    Some Similarities:

    They both have squares in the corners and triangles on the sides.
    They both have parallelograms with 45-135-45-135 angles for the centers.


    Some Differences:

    The proportions are different.
    The shapes of the parallelograms are different.

    The LeMoyne Star - all the interior (finished) seam lengths are the same.
    The 8-pointed Star - The interior (finished) seam lengths are different.

    The LeMoyne Star - all four sides of the diamond are the same length.
    The 8-pointed Star - opposite sides are the same length, but not all four sides are the same length.
    The LeMoyne Star - Cannot construct the center from HSTs
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    I love the traditional Ohio star block but there is also something very appealing about the Le Moyne star too. I make both and the only way to discribe them for myself is that the OS is more masculine and the LMS is more feminine. I think it is because the angles are not as severe in the LMS. imho. TFS
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    Thanks for this info, Bearisgray. I have always been confused by the differences between them.

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    Thank you very much for this information. I think it solves a problem that I encounter with an unfinished quilt top that one of my friend gave me "to do what ever I wanted with it"
    it was so badly sewned with unequal seam allowances etc... I undid it all to find out that the diamond shape were uneven. My only experience was with the Lemoyne star.. Because of your pictures now I know. I still have a zillion pieces to sew . thanks a million!

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    Good comparison, thank you!

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    I added an eight-pointed star that is drawn on a 3 x 3 grid. It's the orange one.

    Most of these have so many variations - many of them quite easy to do.

    I do not think that anyone can compile a "complete" encyclopedia of block patterns. It seems like someone is always coming up with a variation of an old pattern - or giving an old pattern a different/new name.

    If one wants to use graph paper for doodling with the LeMoyne star, I've found that if I "grid" it at 10, 7, 7, 10 intervals, that it comes out fairly close.

    I've found folding paper to be the easiest way to get the proportions - 34 is sort of a clumsy number to use for frequently used block sizes.

    Technically, the proportions are 1, square root of 2 divided by 2, square root of 2 divided by 2, and 1 (1, 0.71, 0.71, and 1) (rounded to the nearest hundredth)
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    Yes, because if you do a true LeMoyne Star, you are dealing with a different angles than with HSTs.
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    Many blocks seem to work fine when adapted to using a HST parallelogram instead of an equal-sided diamond.

    The purpose of this post is just to show that they are different.
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    Fascinating tutorial, did not know that. I thought they were the same, but they're not. Thanks!

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    Learn something every day! Thanks for taking the time!!
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    Hmm. So the Ohio Star is like a 16 patch block with some half square triangles. Easier, I think.

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    This is great information. Thanks for sharing it. I have been wondering recently about doing an 8 pointed star or a LeMoyne star and I thought they were the same thing. I wonder if you could answer a question about cutting the pieces...I would like to use 2.5 inch strips (from a jelly roll) for the diamonds/parallelograms but I am not sure how to cut them and at what sizes the triangles and corner squares will need to be cut. Since I now know that there is a difference I think I would like to do the LeMoyne star. Can you help me out or point me to a website or book with that information??? Much appreciation!!!

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    bearisgray - thanks for the information. Great explanation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melspoon View Post
    This is great information. Thanks for sharing it. I have been wondering recently about doing an 8 pointed star or a LeMoyne star and I thought they were the same thing. I wonder if you could answer a question about cutting the pieces...I would like to use 2.5 inch strips (from a jelly roll) for the diamonds/parallelograms but I am not sure how to cut them and at what sizes the triangles and corner squares will need to be cut. Since I now know that there is a difference I think I would like to do the LeMoyne star. Can you help me out or point me to a website or book with that information??? Much appreciation!!!
    I am attaching a scan that - more or less - explains how I would try to figure out what size to cut your strips, corner squares, and setting triangles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan in VA View Post
    Sharon, you fascinate me! Wish we lived closer to each other, bet we could have all kinds of fun.

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    Thanks - I wish we lived closer, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrayCat View Post
    Hmm. So the Ohio Star is like a 16 patch block with some half square triangles. Easier, I think.
    Depends on which "Ohio Star" you are using.

    There are many "8-pointed" stars drawn on a 4x4 grid - and many drawn on a 3x3 red.

    I think the third star is the one you have in mind. That also goes by many names - according to the Barbara Brackman book.

    The first two blocks drawn on the attachment both go by many names - including "Ohio Star" -

    I used the numbers that Barbara Brackman assigned them in her book "Encyclopedia of Pieced Quilt Patterns.:
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    Quote Originally Posted by bearisgray View Post
    I am attaching a scan that - more or less - explains how I would try to figure out what size to cut your strips, corner squares, and setting triangles.
    This is for what I call a LeMoyne Star block -

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    Here is my Lemoyne star quilt I made last week I still have to bind it I used Deb Tucker rapid fire templets made it fairly easy to make
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    Thanks for taking the time to do this. I appreciate it much! Looking forward to trying it out soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patti p View Post
    Here is my Lemoyne star quilt I made last week I still have to bind it I used Deb Tucker rapid fire templets made it fairly easy to make
    That is a very pretty quillt.

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    Beautiful quilt. all those points coming together in the center, how do you press it? I would think even the whirligig would leave a lump.....what do you do?

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    Thanks so much for that. In my younger years I would have been able to figure it out, but now I can't. Too much water under the bridge.

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    Bear, you are amazing. Your descriptions and diagrams make it so easy to see the differences. Thank you so much.
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