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Thread: Another example of how NOT to pack a sewing machine for shipping.

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    Another example of how NOT to pack a sewing machine for shipping.

    Let's see, what I was bidding on...
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    On top of that, I have another one that I "won", but my communications with the seller haven't been very comforting. I described how I'd like it to be packaged. This hasn't usually had any effect in the past, but oh well, gotta try. He says he'll do what I described "accept (sic) " that he would be using popcorn instead of bubble wrap. But it would be okay because it's the biodegradable green stuff that doesn't crumble. I tried to explain that dense heavy metallic objects are going to settle to the bottom of the box, and the SM will poke thru, and the small parts will fall out. It could be expected if the shipper had only a couple sales under their belt, but you'd think sellers with more than a thousand sales would do better. Oh well, enough of my ranting... buyer beware, as usual.
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    Any additional charges for critters????

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    Oh that's heartbreaking! I see a big red negative coming on that rating.
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    that sucks big time. That seller deserves a big Negative feedback score on the shipping aspect for sure.
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    I will run thru the appropriate steps and give them a chance to make it up. I just wish there was a meddling add-on that would pop up when someone posts a sewing machine for auction, with "tips on packing a sewing machine".
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    I wonder what percentage of machines sold via ebay actually arrived undamaged?... It's so discouraging. On the plus side, it makes all of our machines worth more because they're slowly becoming rare or extinct thanks to dumb-dumb shippers:<

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    Harsh. But at least it looks like the machine itself survived.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldsewnsew View Post
    On top of that, I have another one that I "won", but my communications with the seller haven't been very comforting. I described how I'd like it to be packaged. This hasn't usually had any effect in the past, but oh well, gotta try. He says he'll do what I described "accept (sic) " that he would be using popcorn instead of bubble wrap. But it would be okay because it's the biodegradable green stuff that doesn't crumble. I tried to explain that dense heavy metallic objects are going to settle to the bottom of the box, and the SM will poke thru, and the small parts will fall out. It could be expected if the shipper had only a couple sales under their belt, but you'd think sellers with more than a thousand sales would do better. Oh well, enough of my ranting... buyer beware, as usual.
    I'd start contacting sellers before you bid on a machine. I had a buyer do that on a machine I was selling on eBay, and we talked about packaging. His machine arrived safe and sound.
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    It makes me so sad to see that. .... and keeps me from trying to sell a machine on eBay. I think I could pack one that wouldn't see any damage but they are so heavy..... so many problems...... I hope everything works out fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace View Post
    I wonder what percentage of machines sold via ebay actually arrived undamaged?... It's so discouraging. On the plus side, it makes all of our machines worth more because they're slowly becoming rare or extinct thanks to dumb-dumb shippers:<
    From my experience, I think that a very small percentage arrive undamaged, especially the cases and bases. They always seem to arrive in pieces. I now make it a habit to email the seller minutes after I've won an auction to please follow the EBay guide for shipping sewing machines. Most sellers are glad to find the information and it has really decreased the number of damaged machines that have arrived. If they've done a great job packaging it, but there is still minor damage, then generally, I chalk it up to my own expense.

    If a seller still sends it packaged, "harfe arsed," (Like the one above,) and it arrives with any damage, I go straight to EBay with a complaint. I either ask for a discount, or a total refund, giving the seller the option of getting it back. EBay will really stand behind you. (Not so with GW.) I've had to send a couple of machines back to their sellers, but I got a complete refund, including my costs to send it back.

    I'm so sorry to see your beautiful National arrive in that condition. If it were me, I'd ask for a partial refund, but keep the machine anyway. (And throw out those towels...yuck!)

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    So sad. That's why I am afraid to get a machine unless I can pick it up locally.

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    i don't really want to diss the auction site itself. Last time the discussion got removed for being too negative.
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    Makes me sad - I had that happen last year, although with a much less interesting machine. Couldn't get any satisfaction from the seller. It was packed tightly in a box with about 2 layers of newspaper around it - that's it. Didn't work, couldn't fix it, wasn't worth sending to a service shop as the machine was racked out.

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    I have had both experiences from ebay buys. My little white Featherweight was not padded inside of her case and she slid and broke the side of the case. (Thankfully she is fully intact). I am considering rehabbing the case.
    My 99K with bentwood case was packed very, very well. I had contacted the seller and asked that he/she bubblewrap the machine inside the case so the machine would not bang around and splinter the case. They wrapped it so well it took me almost a hour to get it out of the box and then out of the case! Kuddos to my seller.

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    I've yet to have a wooden base hold up to the machine sitting on it during shipping. Now I tell them to take the machine OUT and pack them side by side. I've had pretty good luck with machines, not very good luck with wood cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldsewnsew View Post
    i don't really want to diss the auction site itself. Last time the discussion got removed for being too negative.
    It's not the auction site that's the issue, it's the ignorant sellers that are..

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    I don't really think it's the fault of the site. Some sellers are clearly better packers than others. I haven't packed a vintage machine but when I ship other stuff I'm know to recycle as much packing stuff as I can manage.

    I'm baffled by towels. Seems like that would add an excessive amount of weight onto the shipment. I can understand their use in between the two boxes as a buffer but to do more than a single towel around the machine to prevent scratches. Ahhhh, lost.
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    I think we've heard over and over that the wood cases don't ship well with a machine in them. Ancient glue and all that.
    Anastasia - I like to sew square things.

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    The best packaging ive seen was when i bought a vintage iMac PC they put it in bag. Then placed a three inch thick styrofoam board on the bottom of a box ,placed the bagged computer on top of the foam board then they gilled the box around the computer with that spray can expandable insulation.
    I bet that would work with sewing machines too.
    I got a knot in my stomach when i saw this pocture,ugh im so sorry that happened to that beautiful machine.

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    FYI, the Goodwill from Johnstown, PA can't pack either. One strip of bubble wrap and shredded paper.

    Who was it that needed the bobbin winder spring? <grumble> It came out easily when the whole bobbin winder was cracked into two pieces.
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    I guess I've been lucky with all of my vintage machines...I have bought 5 from ebay and 3 from etsy and all of them were packed very well and no damage. But, then I did communicate with the sellers to be sure they knew how to pack them properly.

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    How sad. She's beautiful. But it looks like she arrived unscathed.


    At least yours had SOME packing. The last machine I received had ONE sheet of newspaper wrapped around it. But....it arrived with only a bent spool pin. Go figure. I also ask the Sellers not to be insulted if I make a suggestion as to how to ship a 'cast iron' machine...especially if they never shipped one before. Most were most gracious and didn't know that cast iron was fragile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcatanzaro View Post
    I don't really think it's the fault of the site. Some sellers are clearly better packers than others. I haven't packed a vintage machine but when I ship other stuff I'm know to recycle as much packing stuff as I can manage.

    I'm baffled by towels. Seems like that would add an excessive amount of weight onto the shipment. I can understand their use in between the two boxes as a buffer but to do more than a single towel around the machine to prevent scratches. Ahhhh, lost.
    it wasn't really a buffer between 2 boxes, it was just a flattened box used to cover up the fact that the walls of the carton were in no way thick enough to hold the weight. I don't know what they were thinking with the towels, but at least they'd been laundered, so now they can be car wash or sewing machine rags. The seller did refund $45 after a bit of haggling and my photos submitted to the resolution center. Also, this machine might have been a challenge to a novice shipper, partly in that it uses 2 small hinges welded to the machine that are wood screwed to the base, so they probably didn't think of removing the wood screws. It will be a bit of a challenge to reglue the base so that it's not too obvious a repair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onthebrinkofdisaster View Post
    The best packaging ive seen was when i bought a vintage iMac PC they put it in bag. Then placed a three inch thick styrofoam board on the bottom of a box ,placed the bagged computer on top of the foam board then they gilled the box around the computer with that spray can expandable insulation.
    I bet that would work with sewing machines too.
    I got a knot in my stomach when i saw this pocture,ugh im so sorry that happened to that beautiful machine.
    Yes, I think that would be a good way to do it. Just don't forget the bag!!
    Jim

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