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Thread: Is a Bernina Record 930 good?

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    Is a Bernina Record 930 good?

    I don't think it's vintage but looking at purchasing one for a decent price.

    Can anyone tell me about this machine?!

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    I have my DM's Bernina 830 record and it is, and always has been a real workhorse. I have no plan to ever get rid of it!!
    If the machine you found is in decent shape, I would grab it! Just my opinion, and I am no expert!

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    IN NO UNCERTAIN WORDS .... ABSOLUTELY YES They are excellent machines. Minimal electronics and no computers.
    My wife has one that was my late cousins. From 2000 till last year my wife beat the crap out of it with no servicing, no cleaning, nothing. And it never missed a beat. I cleaned and lubed it and it's running much better, but still sews the same.

    Great machines, if you have a chance to get one for a reasonable price do it.

    The only thing is, parts are a pain to find and most Bernina shops will try their livin level best to sell you a new one rather than work on the old one.

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    I may be able to get it for $50. I like the idea of no computer, are there parts that are more likely to break? When inspecting it, what should I look for?

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    The lady who is selling it stated it is "an old friend" but she can no longer lift it and had to get a lighter machine.

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    Grab it quick. I have my beloved 830 Record that I bought new for $350 in 1971- a lot of money for a student. She still purrs along like a happy kitten- beautiful stitches and a very reliable machine. Lucky you!

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    I have my mother's that she got in the late 1980s. It is a work horse. I had to have the motor replaced about three years ago and have it serviced yearly and it doesn't skip a beat. It would be a good buy.
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    http://stjohns.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-s...AdIdZ495784098

    I'm really excited! I get this Bernina Record 930 tomorrow!

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    Make sure that the feed dog is there!!!! Also, make sure that the machine stops in the UP position. Other than that, it is one of my favorite machines. Parts are extremely hard to find. Also, make sure that the hand wheel is true when it is running. All parts for this machine are in very short supply, and they don't make them anymore. If it is running well, you've got a fabulous machine...actually quite unbeatable, even by today's standards. The stitches are terrific!!!!!!

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    I have the 930 and would never give it up. I used it for years and is a great machine.

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    This machine will purr like a kitten for many more years if you keep it clean. My 830 was a dream machine. I gave it to my sister when hubby complained about how many berninas I had. And my sis had been hinting for years. It was such a good machine.

    I had every foot for it. That is key. Buy the ones you can get your hands on. They work like a dream for all those extra little jobs you need to do. Ebay has them. I suggest you buy real parts, I don't recommend the others.
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    I've found feet, bobbin case, etc.. available on ebay..just make sure you buy old style. If it is in good working condition, there may never be a need for a new part. I believe they are all metal except for one nylon gear. I bought one in the mid 70's and mistakenly sold it for a newer model. I had a chance to by one about 6 years ago from an original owner of one who wanted a newer machine. (After some convincing from the dealer, I'm sure.) I have used it for taking to classes. Still sews like it is brand new.
    Last edited by IraJane; 06-20-2013 at 06:01 AM. Reason: additional info

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    If you check what they are selling on ebay for, you'll find the one you've found a real BARGAIN.

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    I never knew a machine could run so quietly! The lady told me it does need servicing, the only thing I can find off is the Selector level is froze up and will not move. I think it just needs a good cleaning.

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    You got a buy of a lifetime there.

    A: The top is easy to remove, there are two catches that look like screws.
    The first one is visible in your pic above. The little chrome screw like gadget at the upper left of the top of the machine.
    There is another one under the bobbin winding door. THESE ARE NOT SCREWS, to release the catch put a screwdriver in the slot, push down till it stops, and give it about a quarter to a half turn. You'll feel it release.
    Then pull the top off.
    The face plate is held on by a screw. Remove it and make it clean under there too. Also oil the moving parts.

    B: Do not force the selector. Get some Tri-Flow and soak it. Gently work the selector till it frees up. There isn't many places that the factory will tell you to oil, but the main shaft has two or three places and anything metal to metal can use a wee bit too.

    C: Pop off the narrow free arm cover and clean, clean, clean it inside. I cleaned a whole cats worth of fuzz and lint out of my wife's machine last year. The catch for that is in the bobbin compartment.

    Be careful around the pattern selector levers. There are electronic control sensors under notched bar and other places as well.

    Once you get it serviced you'll be amazed at what a great sewing machine that is.


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    Congratulations! I received a 930 for Christmas in 1984 and it was the best present ever! I still love it and won't ever trade or sell it. It is HEAVY and I have a Janome for classes and travel but always love sewing on my Bernina. It is a dream machine you will love it.

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    Joe thanks for the tip on how to get the top off. The pattern selector arm was not froze, I just didn't know you had to pull the arm to the right and move it. It sews beautifully!

    The issue is that the red and green lights do not come on. So I cannot get the fancy patterns to work.

    anyone have any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post

    A: The top is easy to remove, there are two catches that look like screws.
    The first one is visible in your pic above. The little chrome screw like gadget at the upper left of the top of the machine.
    There is another one under the bobbin winding door. THESE ARE NOT SCREWS, to release the catch put a screwdriver in the slot, push down till it stops, and give it about a quarter to a half turn. You'll feel it release.
    Then pull the top off.
    The face plate is held on by a screw. Remove it and make it clean under there too. Also oil the moving parts.

    B: Do not force the selector. Get some Tri-Flow and soak it. Gently work the selector till it frees up. There isn't many places that the factory will tell you to oil, but the main shaft has two or three places and anything metal to metal can use a wee bit too.

    C: Pop off the narrow free arm cover and clean, clean, clean it inside. I cleaned a whole cats worth of fuzz and lint out of my wife's machine last year. The catch for that is in the bobbin compartment.

    Be careful around the pattern selector levers. There are electronic control sensors under notched bar and other places as well.

    Once you get it serviced you'll be amazed at what a great sewing machine that is.


    Joe
    I've heard a lot of good things about the Bernina 930. Lucky you!

    Joe, thanks. I have a Bernina I would like to service myself, an older Quilters Edition (don't remember the number offhand). I thought I would need Bernina tools to do it and I think those are hard to come by.

    Do you know about servicing an older Pfaff, an 1171? How do I get it apart? Do I need Pfaff tools? And are the innards to that plastic or metal? If plastic, what do I do about oiling?

    Thanks! (And if someone in addition to Joe knows some of these answers, please post.)
    Last edited by cricket_iscute; 06-20-2013 at 06:39 PM.

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    Cricket,

    I do not yet have any experience with Pfaffs. Someday perhaps.

    NL Quilter,

    I'm not sure why the lights wouldn't come on. Possibly a loose connection. Just a guess.

    Joe

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    NL Quilter, have you tried moving the red/green stitch knob at the bottom right front of the machine back and forth? This knob is located inside the sewing/darning ring. Do you have the manual? If so, check out page 2 - View of Machine to locate these parts.

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    I found a bernina forum on yahoo someone there told me that the actual lights would not affect the patterns, just used to indicate which set you are using. They suggested that the camstack is "gucked up" not to figure how to clean it good.

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    NL quilter,

    The cam stack is right on top of the machine. Once the top is off you can see it easily. I doubt the cam stack, clean or other wise is having any thing to do with the indicator lights. That is most likely a bad connection.

    Do you have a manual for it yet?

    Joe

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    The manual that came with it has 40+ pages on how to use it, and one on maintenance describing on how to clean the bobbin, thats it. Any other work the manual indicates you have to bring it to certified bernina maintenance shop.

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    NL quilter,

    One of the other members here, possibly SteveR sent me a Bernina 930 shop manual. I can't find it on my thumb or hard drive so perhaps it was printed. I don't know. If you PM him maybe he can set you up with the manual.

    While Joey trys like mad to find his.

    Joe

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