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Thread: Class 15 Clone? - Seam Master Deluxe

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    Class 15 Clone? - Seam Master Deluxe

    Does anyone know if this is a Class 15 clone? Think it is a pretty machine. Wish it were blue or green - but still pretty all the same. :-) Maker: Seam Master Model: DST Deluxe Streamliner Precision Sewing Machine Serial Number: JA 23H21/11576 Origin: Japan Color:Beige, off white/ dark tan Bed size: 14 5/8"L X 7" W Year: 1940"s-1950"s ( my best guess of year)
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    It looks like one to me - one of the later ones - some of them have nice strong motors!!! They do need a table or a case to stand up in. Looks like a nice one - not a lot of hard use - oil it up and let her dance.
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    I found her on ebay, $89.99 (plus almost $50 in shipping). Kind of a bit more than I usually wish to pay, but I liked how she looked, and she seems in good condition. This is one that one of those little boxes for around the base can be built easily, right?

    I just love the way these older sewing machines look!!
    Dawn

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    http://www.quiltingboard.com/picture...p-t164361.html - post her pic on there - I don't think there is one like it yet
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    Dawn,

    I don't know that it's a class 15 clone. I'm pretty sure those are restricted to the machines that copy the shape of the Singer Mdl 15s. But, it is obviously a Japanese made machine and a very nice one at that.
    It originally came in a cabinet. You can tell that by the curved piece on the foot controller. That curved piece makes it a knee controller. The controller would have been mounted in a bracket up under the bottom of the cabinet.

    I'll be once you find it a home it will sew very nice.

    Joe

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    the clones continued on - the insides will probably be the same as the older ones - just the body shape changed. In fact I changed one part to another - for Mr. Potato Head http://www.quiltingboard.com/picture...n-t164335.html I was amazed at what all would swap out
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    http://www.quiltingboard.com/picture...p-t164361.html - post her pic on there - I don't think there is one like it yet
    If I buy her, I definitely will! Just found her when I was browsing ebay today. I guess I didn't word my post very well, it does sound like I already have her! I know she isn't the shape of a Singer model 15 - but I did see the thread on Class 15 clones - and some of those machines weren't the same shape either - which was why I wondered. And if she is a Class 15 clone, then parts wouldn't be a problem (bobbins, feet, etc).

    Wish I had unlimited space for sewing machines! I think I can have just 1 more - and have been pondering a 301 (since it could be portable for classes - and reviews indicate she does a wonderful FMQ).

    But then I see a machine like this one - which looks quite a bit different, and I like that! Right now I have a Singer 15-91, a Singer 403 and what seems to be maybe like a clone of a Singer 66 (a Bel Air model, made in occupied Japan, a total impulse buy).
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    Glad you didn't buy - kind of pricy - I can send you one for that price... Yes you can get parts - all kinds of them... You have what you need - some of the clones are pretty cool - my boss has a red Belaire and he LOVE it - looks like an old car - he says it is all he can afford to drive... and it parks in the living room...
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Glad you didn't buy - kind of pricy - I can send you one for that price... Yes you can get parts - all kinds of them... You have what you need - some of the clones are pretty cool - my boss has a red Belaire and he LOVE it - looks like an old car - he says it is all he can afford to drive... and it parks in the living room...
    I have to figure out what I am going to do with my Bel Air. I either need to replace the electrical cords - or I could convert to hand crank.

    Can I FMQ on her (the Bel Air)? The answer to that question might decide which direction I go. If I can FMQ on her (nice, large throat space, even though the feed dogs don't drop) - I will probably keep her electric.
    Dawn

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    Dawn, save your money for a 301...I have a black one and LOVE her!! She is my main machine for quilt piecing and I take her traveling, too. She only weighs 16 pounds and is a strong sewer. The Japanese 15s come up all the time, and I agree with Miriam that price is high for that machine. You can find a 301 as Buy It Now....I see several of them every week on eBay. If you have at least one zigzag machine, go for the 301...you will never regret it!!

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    Thanks jljack! It seems a lot of these machines are priced kind of high. I prefer to buy one that is ready to go (as in I don't have to replace electrical and such before I can sew on it). I am watching several on ebay. The lowest priced one that I see in my area is priced at $150 (it is a black shortbed). Looks in good condition, believe it had been serviced. This machine was first posted on Craig's List back in January. I noticed they reposted yesterday - same price. Thinking of making an offer.

    Would prefer not to pay over $100 if it could be managed. Also telling myself that if I am just patient and lurk on Craig's List - eventually one will come up at the right price! Especially since it is not a matter of need but want.
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    the electric on the clones is external - real easy to do. Hey I'll send you one for $100. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    the electric on the clones is external - real easy to do. Hey I'll send you one for $100. LOL
    Gotta spare 301 lying around?

    Was looking at the pictures of the 319 you cleaned up. What a difference after you finished with her!!
    Dawn

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    my sister has a couple 301s for sale - I've learned a lot from her - she will hang in there when everybody else gives up.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first

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    She looks like she could be a Necchi clone. The smooth round face plates resembles the one on my Sewmor. But yours is a later vintage, just a guess. Sure hope you get a manual if you buy her.
    Sweet Caroline

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