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Thread: Help to Identify Singer TopHat Cams

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    Help to Identify Singer TopHat Cams

    In with the machine I purchased were tophat cams 101,102,104,106,107,108,109 and 111. 101,106,108,111 have a concave surface. All have the numbers and design printed in gold. I also have needle plates 546224, 542396 and 540101. All have a closed hole and a U shaped opening for attachment to the machine. I wanted to make these available to the members of my Homemaker groups as I don't need them for my 403. I have Googled and searched on other Singer groups, blogs, information sites, ebay, craigslist and cannot find the information. I have to have the machine number to do a search LOL I hope that you can send me in the right direction. Thank you in advance for any help.

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    Hi Tizzy,

    Singer made a few different types of cams, not all of them are called 'top hat' cams. I've attached a list of the Singer black Top Hat cams. The cam numbers you listed are not ones I'm familier with, especially not with designs printed in gold on them. ??? Can you post a picture of what you are talking about? Perhaps we can help you out then. It's possible they aren't Singer cams, even though you found them in with your purchased 403. Others may know more...
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    Kim, thank you so much for the reply. Here are the pictures of the Singer Top Hat Cams.

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    don't know which machine they go to. Have you tried searching using the part numbers that are on the back of the cams?
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    Yes, Ma'am, I have! Maybe I doing something wrong, but I can't find anything. Thank you for your reply.

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    Those are wild. I have no idea what they go to, but just looking at em... I'd have bought them myself. Um... I'm going to check something - I have a newer machine... maybe... be right back...
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    I'm not sure which machines these would go with, but the designs match some of the designs that came out with the 700 series of Touch & Sew machines - the first ones that could include reverse stitches in the sequence.

    The ones made for the T&S machines were white - they look like the black "top hat" cams that fit 400, 500, 600 & 700 series machines, but they have an additional guide track on the bottom of the disk to direct forward and reverse.

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    ...and just want to draw your attention to the four on the outside... the have a concave surface where the others have a flat surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepolyparrot View Post
    I'm not sure which machines these would go with, but the designs match some of the designs that came out with the 700 series of Touch & Sew machines - the first ones that could include reverse stitches in the sequence.

    The ones made for the T&S machines were white - they look like the black "top hat" cams that fit 400, 500, 600 & 700 series machines, but they have an additional guide track on the bottom of the disk to direct forward and reverse.
    That's what I was thinking also. I have some of those cam designs, but the cams are white. I guess you learn something new everyday!

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    The white cams that look like top hats (but really are not the same) are Flexi cams. Later machines.

    There were some really funky machines that Singer made with different cams, much later... up into the 70's and even 80's... but so far, haven't been able to find an exact match. Been tryin! There was a needleplate on ebay for sale (with one of the needleplate numbers) thought maybe that might give a clue. But the seller had no idea what machine it came from. And the singer site doesn't allow you to search simply by part number. You have to know the machine first. Judging by the higher part number, those odd cams are from a later machine than the 600's or 700 series.
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    These are type E Flexi-Stitch disks.

    Hello! I think these are called "Singer type E Flexi-Stitch disks." Not sure which machines these work with, but disks with same numbers (but different design) were included with models 690U and 720/740/760, which are all pretty rare machines. If you still have these disks and have no use for them, I can buy them from you to try in some of my machines, they might fit the machines I listed above.


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    Kim, thank you so much for the reply. Here are the pictures of the Singer Top Hat Cams.

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    Hello. I have confirmed, these disks came with Singer 690U machine produced in Japan in early 1970s. I have this machine in my collection. If you don't have use for these, I am interested.

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    "does this mean these particular top hats will not fit the 403?"

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    They will fit but they won't work.

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    Some cams have two rows of notches, some one. One will control the needle left/right and the other controls the feed, forward and backwards. Some machines (like the 401/403) do not have the ability to have the cam control the feed, so those double stack cams won't work.
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    The cams you're looking for are black but with only one row of notches and no gold on them. They fit the Singer 400 and 500 series machines along with the 600 series Touch & Sews. The ones in the Touch & Sew boxes are readily available and cheap on Ebay, if you want an original box to match your machine be prepared to pay a bit more.
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    Looks like this thread is gonna be updated every year.
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    My son, a former SMG for 14 years, tells me that the 403 (I have one, too) can use all of the Top Hat Cams, EXCEPT the white Flexi Stitch cams. As for those that are concave -- I don't know!

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