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Thread: High bids for blue clone ... why????

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    High bids for blue clone ... why????

    Am I missing something or have the bidders in this GW auction:
    http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem...temid=11318681
    lost all traces of common sense they ever had?

    It's a pretty blue clone badged: BELAIR. It has some accessories, attachments, manual, all it's parts and a nice case. And it's sitting at $93.32 as of a few minutes ago.

    What are they thinking? Or are they thinking? It's a nice machine, but not that nice. As much as I want a blue clone I will not pay that much for one.

    Joe

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    Whoa! I guess if it is what they want......I have a similiar one , same color, Morse, and paid alot less.......

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    ​Someone must want it really bad. Not me!
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    I've bid on four blue clones and been outbid on three. With all the machines I have, and all the clones that are out there, it's senseless to bid that much. At least to me it is.

    Joe

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    I got my blue clone for free via CL. They're cute and obviously someone wants blue machines or the bids wouldn't go so high. There will be more for sale-there always are!

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    I paid $30 for my clone . . . finally used it the other day. Still not sure I like it.

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    Last week I purchased the same model #202 (only a really pretty green) badged "Dressmaker" in very good condition, shiny paint and it makes a wonderful stitch. Seems to really like heavy material best! I am thrilled with it and paid $29.00 at Goodwill.
    Penny (Scotlass)

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    Joe,

    That one is exactly like my blue Universal which I purchased for $15.00 at a church sale. Nice machine, makes nice straight stitch. To anyone who does purchase one of these, don't do what I did. Tried to take light apart, can't remember why now, but I cracked the light case all to pieces, so I may have to order one. Do thay still sell these light holders? Thanks for any info.
    Kitsy

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    Kitsy,

    You can buy new lights at Sew-Classic, and spray paint to make it match at most any hardware store or Hobby Lobby.

    "Some", but not all of the plastic bodied lights will come apart. It's hard to tell which is which though.

    Joe

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    Thanks Joe, I will check with Sew-Classic. I am a very impatient person and if I had just studied the light for a while before I took the screw driver to it I may have been able to fix it. Must learn to take my time and enjoy the process and not be so anxious to get to the finished product. By the way, I love reading your posts as well as those from Charlee, Muv, Miriam, Candace, and Caroline and everyone else. Such great knowledge from you all, so very helpful.
    Kitsy

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    I have one that is almost identical but it is badged as a Capri. I found mine at a local thrift store. It's one of my favorites....a quiet machine and a really nice stitch.
    ~~Cathy~~

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    Kitsy, I have a BLUE light assy that came on a Singer Redeye. Must have been someone's fix in the past. I thought about keeping. Geez, for what? Anyway, I will post a pic of it. It may match your blue machine. It is yours if you think it will match close enough.
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    BLUE light assy

    I tried to take good enough pics this morning in order to show the best color. It needs to be rewired as the wiring is brittle with exposed wires.
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    Sweet Caroline

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    The blue is a gorgeous color, the faceplate is ornate, lots of accessories present. I'd pay more than that, if I was in love with the machine.

    I'm still crying about the turquoise-blue Morse Fotomatic IV that I passed up on CL because I thought they were asking too much. I still wish I hadn't chosen that one time in my life to be a tightwad.

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    i understand what a clone is, but what model is the blue machine a clone of?
    The only bad days are the ones you don't get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nancia View Post
    i understand what a clone is, but what model is the blue machine a clone of?
    Singer Model 15-90 or so. They are not "exact" clones, but are based on the Model 15s. The Japanese added things like feed dog drop knobs on the bed next to the base of the pillar and a rainbow of gorgeous colors.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by nancia View Post
    i understand what a clone is, but what model is the blue machine a clone of?
    Echoing Joe here. That's the fun part. Trying to figure that out. The Japanese took the basic design from the Singer 15 and then added other features from White, Brother, Necchi and others. They did a darn good job of producing excellent sewing machines.
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    So do I. It is amazing how much you all know. I long to learn a lot.

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    I would gladly pay that if I were in the market for another clone, it is beautiful and has so many accessories with it. I paid 100.00 for a badged Japanese 15-clone. My Grandson had it given to him while helping a friend's family move. It was brand new had never been oiled or used. No manual or anything. Just one foot. I bought a light and 5-6 belts until I got one that fit, oiled it up and it sews perfect. I just finished sewing strips together for about 1 hour 15 minutes.
    I got help from Joe and another man here and some info on it. This board is great with knowledge everyone is willing to share.
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    thanks! i check in here more and more frequently. you are enticing me and that has to be illegal!LOL next thing you know i'll be looking for vintage machines and a good divorce lawyer( one who quilts, preferably!)
    The only bad days are the ones you don't get.

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    My clone is a blue Morse purchased for $19. I didn't get the manual but ut's available online. It sews great. What I learned about auctions is that sometimes "emotions" drive the price. I saw a very ordinary but nice ubquilted top sell for many times more that it should have because 3 bidders got a little crazy. I forget how many clones were produced but there are a lot around. Definitely keep looking.

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    Well, I was outbid again. This makes four I've been outbid on. I was bidding on a nice SEWMOR 202 in purty metallic blue in a nice case
    http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem...temID=11321235 .
    At the last 10 minutes we were out bid. Then we bid again running up 20.00, then before my wife could get in another bid, (we're on dial up) two others snipped the auction in the last seconds running it up to $52.00. Not a terribly bad price, but more than we can afford right now.

    I think I'm gonna

    Joe

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    Aw... that's too bad. I hate computer snafu's.

    Are there any sniper programs that will work on Goodwill auctions?

    I use bid-slammer on "the bay." I just set the highest price I'm willing to pay for the item and then I forget it. I don't indicate my interest in the item by bidding early and I don't get caught up in emotional bidding. There's a lot of psychology in bidding - when you've placed a bid, you have a certain feeling of ownership which you might be drawn into defending.

    Because I've set the highest price that I'm willing to pay, I don't have any regrets either way - if I get a winning notice from eBay, that's great - I don't pay more than I wanted to.

    If I see that I was outbid by someone else's proxy on my bidslammer list, that's okay, too. I didn't pay more than I wanted to and another one will come along eventually. (Usually in a VERY short time. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepolyparrot View Post
    Aw... that's too bad. I hate computer snafu's.

    Are there any sniper programs that will work on Goodwill auctions?

    I use bid-slammer on "the bay." I just set the highest price I'm willing to pay for the item and then I forget it. I don't indicate my interest in the item by bidding early and I don't get caught up in emotional bidding. There's a lot of psychology in bidding - when you've placed a bid, you have a certain feeling of ownership which you might be drawn into defending.

    Because I've set the highest price that I'm willing to pay, I don't have any regrets either way - if I get a winning notice from eBay, that's great - I don't pay more than I wanted to.

    If I see that I was outbid by someone else's proxy on my bidslammer list, that's okay, too. I didn't pay more than I wanted to and another one will come along eventually. (Usually in a VERY short time. Good luck!
    I agree 100%! I NEVER bid early on anything...it just drives the price up. I don't use a sniping service but I only bid once...the highest price I'd go in the last minute (preferably last few seconds) of the auction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by path49 View Post
    I agree 100%! I NEVER bid early on anything...it just drives the price up. I don't use a sniping service but I only bid once...the highest price I'd go in the last minute (preferably last few seconds) of the auction.
    I do something similar on ShopGoodwill. I don't bid early and I place a bid for the highest amount I want to pay considering the cost of shipping. If I win, I won, if I lose, well that's OK too. The key is to not get caught up in "Auction Fever".
    Sweet Caroline

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