Monogrammers?
03-30-2014, 10:12 AM
#21
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foufymaus, Sears sold a lot of machines under the Kenmore name, made by many different companies. So you need to figure out which manufacturer made the machine your attachments fit.
Also - there is a set for flat bed and a slightly different set for open arm machines too.
Share a picture of the attachments you have, and maybe we can help you with it.
The one on the left fits the flat bed 158 series (at least the later models, not sure about earlier ones) and though I don't know for sure, I think the one on the right is for an open arm machine.
The left unit has a seperate box with all the templates in it. It was a four box set my series Kenmore, (I may not have the titles correct though) Attachments and Mongrammer, Accessories and buttonholer, Monogram Templates, and Decorative stitch cams. If you have the box that says "Monogrammer and Cams" I have only seen that in the Open Arm style.
The throat plate is removed, and the monogrammer, OR the plate with drive gear for the bottonholer is attached, so you have to match up the unit with a machine with the correct plate.
Also - there is a set for flat bed and a slightly different set for open arm machines too.
Share a picture of the attachments you have, and maybe we can help you with it.
The one on the left fits the flat bed 158 series (at least the later models, not sure about earlier ones) and though I don't know for sure, I think the one on the right is for an open arm machine.
The left unit has a seperate box with all the templates in it. It was a four box set my series Kenmore, (I may not have the titles correct though) Attachments and Mongrammer, Accessories and buttonholer, Monogram Templates, and Decorative stitch cams. If you have the box that says "Monogrammer and Cams" I have only seen that in the Open Arm style.
The throat plate is removed, and the monogrammer, OR the plate with drive gear for the bottonholer is attached, so you have to match up the unit with a machine with the correct plate.
03-30-2014, 07:42 PM
#22
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Hi! Thanks for offering to help ID The machine. I looked around the store for the one that could possibly go with this set but i didn't find it. It may not even have been set out yet. hmm.. but for how here's what I have:
The Button attachment [ATTACH=CONFIG]469497[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]469498[/ATTACH]
the monogrammer:[ATTACH=CONFIG]469499[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]469500[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]469501[/ATTACH]
Then there this little gizmo I don't think was made for Kenmore but It is an interesting little thing that i'll try out on other machines.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]469502[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]469503[/ATTACH]
As always I've uploade more photos here: http://imgur.com/a/7Nos4
The Button attachment [ATTACH=CONFIG]469497[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]469498[/ATTACH]
the monogrammer:[ATTACH=CONFIG]469499[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]469500[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]469501[/ATTACH]
Then there this little gizmo I don't think was made for Kenmore but It is an interesting little thing that i'll try out on other machines.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]469502[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]469503[/ATTACH]
As always I've uploade more photos here: http://imgur.com/a/7Nos4
03-30-2014, 08:14 PM
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That looks a lot like the kit that came with a 158.19142 that I had here. Maybe that can help you narrow it down? Maybe check Ebay for listings for that model, or similar ones with all of their accessories?
ETA: I think I still have a full set of cams here for it too (bought as spares when I spotted them at a thrift store before I got the machine)
ETA: I think I still have a full set of cams here for it too (bought as spares when I spotted them at a thrift store before I got the machine)
So i have accessories and cams but no machine. LOL I figure i'll eventually stumble upon it.
03-30-2014, 09:36 PM
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Yes! LOL one more machine! *sighs* really ...13 is a bad number to be stuck at... I need one more. *wink* Yes... the serger doesn't count because it's not 'vintage' and two... it's a serger. LOL It's really less than 12 years old I say it doesn't count as old. My new-ish bernette does sort of count it was made in the 1990's she's the baby of the group. lol
03-31-2014, 02:58 AM
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All I know is you have a set that fits an open arm machine, not a flat bed machine. And that the feed dog inset is more square in shape compared to the one that is long and narrow.
The yellow box would have held the chain stitch attachment parts, which is the needle plate and then a round part that slips into the bobbin case.
My husband picked up the monogrammer for $2, just to see if the cams would work with the other unit. At the time I didn't know much about them and did not realize it was for an open arm machine.
For fun I was looking on eBay - there are many to choose from. Watch though because Kenmore often lists the models as the last digits of the machine, you have to make sure the first digits are in the 158 series. I've seen some that were from 13XX up to 19xx that your items should fit, so then you need to decide what features you want.
From looking, I think the numbers are not necessarily indicative of age, meaning a 13XX may not be an older machine than a 15XX machine. It seems more like those may indicate features, such as a group of machines may have been 1312, 1412 and 1812 for the age group. I was looking for a machine with specific features and ended up with a 1833. This one has the ability to do stretch stitches, so it is one of the later models with two cam followers, earlier ones only have one cam follower. Kenmore called this feature "verigator"
Right now on eBay, there is a model 134x, 154x and 194x, all are open arms and all look like your attachment will fit. But I also found a nice 162X machine- main thing is it's an open arm. And if you want one that chain stitches, the needle plate has to have the smaller square removable insert that goes around the feed dogs. Some models have a solid plate so you can't use the chain stitch adapter with them.
The full model number will be on plate on the underside of the machine, and it will be 158-MMMMx (five digit) but the "model" number listed on the manual will only be the first four of those digits.
The yellow box would have held the chain stitch attachment parts, which is the needle plate and then a round part that slips into the bobbin case.
My husband picked up the monogrammer for $2, just to see if the cams would work with the other unit. At the time I didn't know much about them and did not realize it was for an open arm machine.
For fun I was looking on eBay - there are many to choose from. Watch though because Kenmore often lists the models as the last digits of the machine, you have to make sure the first digits are in the 158 series. I've seen some that were from 13XX up to 19xx that your items should fit, so then you need to decide what features you want.
From looking, I think the numbers are not necessarily indicative of age, meaning a 13XX may not be an older machine than a 15XX machine. It seems more like those may indicate features, such as a group of machines may have been 1312, 1412 and 1812 for the age group. I was looking for a machine with specific features and ended up with a 1833. This one has the ability to do stretch stitches, so it is one of the later models with two cam followers, earlier ones only have one cam follower. Kenmore called this feature "verigator"
Right now on eBay, there is a model 134x, 154x and 194x, all are open arms and all look like your attachment will fit. But I also found a nice 162X machine- main thing is it's an open arm. And if you want one that chain stitches, the needle plate has to have the smaller square removable insert that goes around the feed dogs. Some models have a solid plate so you can't use the chain stitch adapter with them.
The full model number will be on plate on the underside of the machine, and it will be 158-MMMMx (five digit) but the "model" number listed on the manual will only be the first four of those digits.
07-29-2015, 09:43 AM
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The monogrammer for low shank machine is Singer #V171278 Deluxe Monogrammer for Vertical Needle Zig Zag Machines. Look on eby. Also look for .
Singer describe these as
Active attachments for Singer sewing machines where the position of the material is controlled by a lever connecting to the needle clamp screw.
also look on ebay for feet for vintage sewing machines. be careful of what you buy, some sellers do not know the difference in feet shank. good luck let me know if you need more help. I look a lot before I found mine.
Singer describe these as
Active attachments for Singer sewing machines where the position of the material is controlled by a lever connecting to the needle clamp screw.
also look on ebay for feet for vintage sewing machines. be careful of what you buy, some sellers do not know the difference in feet shank. good luck let me know if you need more help. I look a lot before I found mine.
