Need help from all ya Vintage Treadle people!
05-06-2019, 04:55 AM
#25
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Originally Posted by Jessieth
I just bought a New Automatic machine that must be like yours. It, too, has a last patent pending date of 1913. What size/type needles does yours use? Have you been able to find a manual or know where to download one? Thanks!
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11-01-2020, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PJisChaos
Ok, so DH got me a vintage treadle for Mothers Day, of which I am just ecstatic about!!! LoL!
I have been searching the net for over 4 hours trying to find out something about this one and am getting nowhere.
I hope someone out there can help me out, even just a point in the right direction would be good at this point.. my head hurts!!
It is a "New Automatic" treadle. It has not been adapted to use a motor and is missing a belt, as far as I can tell. It came with 4 bobbins, the long thin ones, and the shuttle is intact and had a bobbin still in it. From what I have been able to find, these machines were only manufactured under the name New Automatic from 1885 to 1897 in Rockford, IL. Then they moved to California and became The Free Sewing Machine Company. It did come with an instruction book(Looks like a reprint maybe, is too new looking for those years IMHO) that has this on the inside cover:
Sewing Machine Factory
Rockford, Illinois
The serial number(?) on the back plate has C338438 stamped on it but under the flap on the side of the head, on the shaft that moves the needle(needle shaft?) it has stamped on it: PATAPPLFOR and C227 below it. I am assuming(prolly wrong) that it means Patent Applied For..? I think the C227 is maybe a model number..? That is all the printing or writing I have found on it anywhere. The decals are green, with maybe orange and gold or yellow. Is hard to tell as they are in bad shape. I really want to know just how old she is and where to get more info on her in order to get her running. The seller said the little old lady used it up until a year or 2 before she passed, there were 3 other various machines there as well. I have found all kinds of "goodies" in the drawers from over the years, flyers and advertisements, buttons, various trimmings, lots of old needles, a pin for a democratic candidate from ??, and even several pesos! LoL
I have been searching the net for over 4 hours trying to find out something about this one and am getting nowhere.
I hope someone out there can help me out, even just a point in the right direction would be good at this point.. my head hurts!!
It is a "New Automatic" treadle. It has not been adapted to use a motor and is missing a belt, as far as I can tell. It came with 4 bobbins, the long thin ones, and the shuttle is intact and had a bobbin still in it. From what I have been able to find, these machines were only manufactured under the name New Automatic from 1885 to 1897 in Rockford, IL. Then they moved to California and became The Free Sewing Machine Company. It did come with an instruction book(Looks like a reprint maybe, is too new looking for those years IMHO) that has this on the inside cover:
Sewing Machine Factory
Rockford, Illinois
The serial number(?) on the back plate has C338438 stamped on it but under the flap on the side of the head, on the shaft that moves the needle(needle shaft?) it has stamped on it: PATAPPLFOR and C227 below it. I am assuming(prolly wrong) that it means Patent Applied For..? I think the C227 is maybe a model number..? That is all the printing or writing I have found on it anywhere. The decals are green, with maybe orange and gold or yellow. Is hard to tell as they are in bad shape. I really want to know just how old she is and where to get more info on her in order to get her running. The seller said the little old lady used it up until a year or 2 before she passed, there were 3 other various machines there as well. I have found all kinds of "goodies" in the drawers from over the years, flyers and advertisements, buttons, various trimmings, lots of old needles, a pin for a democratic candidate from ??, and even several pesos! LoL
All closed up(my helper standing by)
Attachment 194015
opened up and looking ready
opened up and looking ready
Attachment 194016
she's a little rough right now.
she's a little rough right now.
Attachment 194017
the serial plate??
the serial plate??
Thanks
11-01-2020, 01:49 PM
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Welcome, NorthernPrairieGramma. I don't think the majority of the posters have been active on Quilting Board for over a year and PJisChaos it has been over 6 years. I believe that a manual that can be found at http://ismacs.net/free/manuals/freevs-c-e-ce-manual.pdf will probably be really close to the New Automatic.
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We like pictures. In order to post pictures on Quilting Board, you will probably need to reduce or compress the picture to a file size that is smaller than 2MB. How to post images can be found at https://www.quiltingboard.com/attach...020-01-17-.pdf
Don't forget to scroll over to the far right to find and click on the "Upload" button.
I have found that only the big red "Reply" button or "Quote" work to give me the paper clip icon to work for adding pictures.
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Some additional info regarding reducing images at post #4 and images for the scroll and upload button can be found at #5 of quilt block ID?
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11-02-2020, 08:03 AM
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11-02-2020, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PJisChaos
Well, got her a good initial cleaning. Love the fact that ya can tear so much of it apart and really get in there. Still needs more thoroughly cleaned but, had to give a once over so I could play with her, ya know. ;-)
We all decided on a name for her too, Black Betty. I love that song and somehow, it seems to fit. LoL! I got her all put back together and since it doesn't have the treadle belt, handcranked a few seams to see how she does. Tension all outta whack from cleaning so had to adjust, and adjust some more. But, the results are fabulous!! Now to find some leather laces to make a belt and some new needles, then I am off and running with her. Even got the initiation project ready to go. Having too much fun! :-)
We all decided on a name for her too, Black Betty. I love that song and somehow, it seems to fit. LoL! I got her all put back together and since it doesn't have the treadle belt, handcranked a few seams to see how she does. Tension all outta whack from cleaning so had to adjust, and adjust some more. But, the results are fabulous!! Now to find some leather laces to make a belt and some new needles, then I am off and running with her. Even got the initiation project ready to go. Having too much fun! :-)
first of all congratulations on your machine!! I now buy my thin leather belts online. They are not expensive and you adjust and cut the leather to fit your machine. You are off to a great start I have no doubt you will restore Black Betty real fast!
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