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    Needle position adjustment on a Dressmaker 2000 machine

    We got us a really nice Dressmaker 2000 machine. Uses cams and has 30 of them. When it got here we did the cursory inspection and I saw that the needle will not center. When the lever is centered the needle it to the left.
    If you try a ZZ stitch the needle will hit either the foot or the needle plate or both.

    The bobbin carrier moves side to side with the needle bar.

    Now, I've looked inside trying to figure out what to adjust to move the needle back to center. However there is about a dozen lock and adjusting screws in and around the parts that control the position.

    Does anyone here have any experience adjusting these machines they would share?

    Here's the GW pic, you can see it's a Japanese made machine. No idea by whom though.

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    I've centered the needle on Kenmores...open the side plate so I can see if it's similar.

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    Joe, some of the Japanese machines have dedicated left needle positions. That is the default for them. My Universal is like that, but unlike yours, it ZZs and does the decorative stitches from that position. I could get used to it if I only sewed with that machine, not a variety, but I'm having trouble visualizing a 1/4" seam on it. The right feeddog is more than 1/4" from the needle, I'm thinking. After I put the new plug on, I'll have to play with it.

    I just visited a Yahoo site that says your Dressmaker was made by Dressmaker. There was a manual for $17.00. For that price, I'll figure the Universal out myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose View Post
    Joe, some of the Japanese machines have dedicated left needle positions. That is the default for them. My Universal is like that, but unlike yours, it ZZs and does the decorative stitches from that position. I could get used to it if I only sewed with that machine, not a variety, but I'm having trouble visualizing a 1/4" seam on it. The right feeddog is more than 1/4" from the needle, I'm thinking. After I put the new plug on, I'll have to play with it.

    I just visited a Yahoo site that says your Dressmaker was made by Dressmaker. There was a manual for $17.00. For that price, I'll figure the Universal out myself.
    Left needle position for a straight stitch...yes, sometimes. But he said it's hitting the foot & plate when it zigzags. So it DOES need adjustment.

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    Ha ha ha ,, I just got back from my sewing machine fix, and came home with a dressmaker .... not quite as Hi tech as yours,, but Just sat here trieng to get figure this out , yes they stay left for straight stitch,, if you put on the quilting foot the needle lines up with the hole in the foot...

    Aaaaaa the machine I have takes a shorter needle the the standard singer needles.. I always check the needle lenght in a new machine against a singer needle 100/18,, I put in a singer 100/18 it sewed good but I could hear that chunking sound. That needles tip was beat flat, I found one new short needle in teh goodie box whiched the original .. she works just like new,,, the needle package says made in holland ,,,40F1 - 14 ( 1775 ) just looking there a 1/16 " shorter, grind the top tip off a singer and that would be about right .

    The needle and bobbin moves just like yours... no serial or model number just a metal tag at the up and down buttons saying nationally sold ,, made in japan


    doing a google on this all I get is the euro pro dressmakers

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    We have two Japanese ZZ machines that park the needle to the left for straight stitch. Neither of them have a R-C-L lever for the needle position.
    This machine does. Based on others we have it should park in the middle with the lever in the middle position.

    path49, I'll pop the top off and get some pics today (Sunday).

    For those two machines that park to the left I have offset straight stitch feet that go a long way to making a 1/4" seam. A lot easier for me than measuring 1/4" right from the needle and making a mark on the foot.
    My wife can eye ball it real good, but she's been doing that for ever.

    Joe

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    irishrose,

    I've paid more for manuals. I haven't had time to research this one yet, but with 30 cams and all the controls, I'd drop the cash for a manual.

    Joe

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    I like your Dressmaker. I have not sprung for a machine with all of the cams yet (yet haha).
    Sweet Caroline

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    Caroline,

    I said to my wife: here's one you'll be interested in. She took one look and said, that's mine. We bid on it and one.
    It's a nice machine. The GW pics don't do it justice.

    Joe

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    Yep, I want a Dressmaker like the one your wife claimed. Especially if I can find one in a case instead of a cabinet. They have a smaller footprint if you know what I mean.
    Sweet Caroline

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    We have two Japanese ZZ machines that park the needle to the left for straight stitch. Neither of them have a R-C-L lever for the needle position.
    This machine does. Based on others we have it should park in the middle with the lever in the middle position.

    path49, I'll pop the top off and get some pics today (Sunday).

    For those two machines that park to the left I have offset straight stitch feet that go a long way to making a 1/4" seam. A lot easier for me than measuring 1/4" right from the needle and making a mark on the foot.
    My wife can eye ball it real good, but she's been doing that for ever.

    Joe
    You don't need to take the top off...Just open up the side so the needle bar is visible. That's where you'd adjust it.

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    OK, I hope this is seen.

    First I have a correction. The machine in question is a Domestic 7000. Not a 2000. I misread the label.

    Here are the pics I promised path49:

    Front w/ cams:


    Front a bit closer:


    Top, full length:


    Top, a bit closer:


    Top, close up of the needle position section:


    Needle position close up a:


    Needle position close up b:


    Now, in the pics of the machine you can see the needle R-C-L lever is centered. In the first needle close up I put a straight stitch foot on so you could see more clearly how off center it is.
    In the second needle picture I removed the foot and moved the R-C-L lever to the left. You can see the needle is hitting the edge of the slot on the needle plate.

    There must be an adjustment so that is what I'm trying to get assistance with.

    TIA

    Joe

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    OK, here's a pic of the left side open:

    I don't see how you could adjust the needle position from there. Remember the bobbin carrier moves back and forth in conjunction with the needle.
    The whole shebang has to be adjusted.

    Joe

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    Nope...totally UNLIKE my Kenmores! On a Kenmore there's a curved arm that is connected to the front of the needle bar with what looks like a screw/bolt. It's actually an eccentric. On a Kenmore you loosen the nut behind the needle bar that's screwed onto the threads of the eccentric...then turn the eccentric bolt & it moves the needle bar. When it's in position, just tighten the nut.

    I doubt that you'll have to adjust the bobbin carrier...the needle bar getting knocked out of position probably didn't move the carrier. I've never had to do any adjustments there.

    Let me look in a generic repair book I have & I'll see if I can find anything in there.
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    The Kenmore probably has a front loading bobbin carrier too. Ours does.

    Thanks,

    Joe

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    Nothing similar enough in the book to give any advice. If I were you, I'd try slightly loosening every screw slightly (from the top L-C-R control all the way to the needle bar) that looked like there's adjustment capability (a slot, possible eccentric, etc)...& try moving the needle bar to center. Then tighten them all. Your adjustment (set screw, eccentric, slot...whatever) is for sure SOMEPLACE between the L-C-R control & the needle bar. Then deal with the bobbin carrier if necessary.

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    She sure is a beauty! Congrats!

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    I misread, thinking you said there isn't a L _C _ R lever.. this one doesn't have that ,, on my singer 237 it's under the top cover where your looking... but it seems I had to take something else out to get at the adjustment ??

    On this one the foot will only raise less than a 1/4 inch, That has to be wrong ??

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    OMG what a gorgeous machine. No wonder you bought it! Maybe you can find a repair manual online, too. Sometimes even a different model # can help.

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    Are you sure the needle is facing the correct way. On one of my machines I remember my needle hitting, just like yours, and when I did a search on the correct way to face the needle I found that I had it in wrong. When I changed it around it fit perfectly through the hole.
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    Joe - does it have some gummy oil in the zz piston?
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Joe - does it have some gummy oil in the zz piston?
    Miriam,
    Will try to check it later today.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbagepatchkid View Post
    Are you sure the needle is facing the correct way. On one of my machines I remember my needle hitting, just like yours, and when I did a search on the correct way to face the needle I found that I had it in wrong. When I changed it around it fit perfectly through the hole.
    Joe, Cathy may have hit on it! In the pictures it looks like the eye of the needle is facing forward. Shouldn't it thread from left to right?

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    Pat, Cathy,

    The picture were taken as it came to us. I had not started checking on it at that time. You are correct, the needle is in wrong in that picture. However once oriented properly it still did not make it through the hole.

    I have since corrected most of the side to side maladjustments, the biggest problem now is the cam drive is binding, the patterns are not properly formed and the top thread keeps breaking.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    the biggest problem now is the cam drive is binding, the patterns are not properly formed and the top thread keeps breaking. Joe
    Joe it could be you need some more oil and heat near the cam drive - something is still gummed up. oil it every way from Sunday... and then turn the machine upside down and every other direction so the oil can penetrate... The top thread could be a tension problem or thread not flowing through right - hanging up somewhere.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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