New treadle is home ... and it's not a Singer
12-04-2015, 06:36 AM
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New treadle is home ... and it's not a Singer
Well, we got the new (to us) treadle yesterday. It was a job getting it out of the attic, but we did it.
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At the top of the really skinny steep stairs
I took one look at it and saw right off it wasn't a Singer.
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It was a New Home
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I don't know what model it is yet.
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I was up in the attic and handed down the drawers, they had some goodies in them,
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then pulled the head off, the hinges were loose and one was missing the nut underneath,
to the guy selling it. Then the hard part started. Getting the cabinet down one step at a
time. At one point the guy missed a step and since I didn't want to drop my end I about went
head over appetite down the stairs. I caught myself, but I pulled a muscle ... ouch.
Didn't get any pics of this cos the camera was in my pocket.
The machine was locked up on the bottom end, buy some surface rust and ancient solidified oil.
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And had a really thick piece of black wool felt wrapped around the arm stuck full of needles.
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Luckily the felt was so thick there was no needle rash. This is one piece of felt we're gonna keep.
More below \/
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536971[/ATTACH]
At the top of the really skinny steep stairs
I took one look at it and saw right off it wasn't a Singer.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536972[/ATTACH]
It was a New Home
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536973[/ATTACH]
I don't know what model it is yet.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536974[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536975[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536976[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536977[/ATTACH]
I was up in the attic and handed down the drawers, they had some goodies in them,
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536978[/ATTACH]
then pulled the head off, the hinges were loose and one was missing the nut underneath,
to the guy selling it. Then the hard part started. Getting the cabinet down one step at a
time. At one point the guy missed a step and since I didn't want to drop my end I about went
head over appetite down the stairs. I caught myself, but I pulled a muscle ... ouch.
Didn't get any pics of this cos the camera was in my pocket.
The machine was locked up on the bottom end, buy some surface rust and ancient solidified oil.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536979[/ATTACH]
And had a really thick piece of black wool felt wrapped around the arm stuck full of needles.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536980[/ATTACH]
Luckily the felt was so thick there was no needle rash. This is one piece of felt we're gonna keep.
More below \/
12-04-2015, 06:54 AM
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Once home I got out the Tri-Flow and saturated it.
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In no time at all it was freed up and spinning nicely.
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The cabinet is missing the lock bar between the left side drawers,
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one of the coffin top latch disks is off, but there. Screws are missing though.
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And the the top is missing one hook.
Other than that it's in pretty good shape compared to some I've worked on.
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Here's the goodies that came in the drawers. The hemmers are all squished, not sure if I can fix them.
There is a couple extra feet, an under braider and a shirring slide plate, an extra needle plate, a couple other things that seem to go with something not there.
There is also two flat needles, you can see them at the top center. One of them is marked with a star and what looks like a doo doo bird stamped into the metal. Both are well worn. And a hook for the old style lace up shoes.
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The machine itself has no markings on it at all. Nowhere. The only markings are on the slide plates.
The serial # on the front plate is 725758, and the newest patent date on the rear slide plate is August 26, 1879.
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The bed decal is a rather elegant house with a horse and buggy in front of it and the rest are some sort of flowing vine.
I think the price we paid was really good for this and the repairs and parts needed are really minimal considering.
But I need to find the model number and the date of manufacturer so I'll know.
The actual story is the guy who sold it to us bought it 30 years ago at an auction and never did anything with it. He just wanted it out of his way. I was glad to oblige.
So, if anyone can guide me to the information I seek, I'll be thrilled. I've tried ISMACS with no results so now to check elsewhere.
Joe
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In no time at all it was freed up and spinning nicely.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536982[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536983[/ATTACH]
The cabinet is missing the lock bar between the left side drawers,
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536984[/ATTACH]
one of the coffin top latch disks is off, but there. Screws are missing though.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536985[/ATTACH]
And the the top is missing one hook.
Other than that it's in pretty good shape compared to some I've worked on.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536986[/ATTACH]
Here's the goodies that came in the drawers. The hemmers are all squished, not sure if I can fix them.
There is a couple extra feet, an under braider and a shirring slide plate, an extra needle plate, a couple other things that seem to go with something not there.
There is also two flat needles, you can see them at the top center. One of them is marked with a star and what looks like a doo doo bird stamped into the metal. Both are well worn. And a hook for the old style lace up shoes.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536987[/ATTACH]
The machine itself has no markings on it at all. Nowhere. The only markings are on the slide plates.
The serial # on the front plate is 725758, and the newest patent date on the rear slide plate is August 26, 1879.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]536988[/ATTACH]
The bed decal is a rather elegant house with a horse and buggy in front of it and the rest are some sort of flowing vine.
I think the price we paid was really good for this and the repairs and parts needed are really minimal considering.
But I need to find the model number and the date of manufacturer so I'll know.
The actual story is the guy who sold it to us bought it 30 years ago at an auction and never did anything with it. He just wanted it out of his way. I was glad to oblige.
So, if anyone can guide me to the information I seek, I'll be thrilled. I've tried ISMACS with no results so now to check elsewhere.
Joe
Last edited by J Miller; 12-04-2015 at 07:01 AM.
12-04-2015, 08:21 AM
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[QUOTE=J Miller;7393897]And a hook for the old style lace up shoes.
Beautiful piece of history. When someone posts photos here of the contents of drawers in newly found machines they have and are working on, I often see a button hook, some more elaborate than others. Are these button hooks used on the belts of the machine?
Beautiful piece of history. When someone posts photos here of the contents of drawers in newly found machines they have and are working on, I often see a button hook, some more elaborate than others. Are these button hooks used on the belts of the machine?
12-04-2015, 08:51 AM
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Dating: (1887)
http://ismacs.net/newhome/manufacture_dates.html
Model ID: (I'd need a face on shot the be sure, but my guess is a Model A (new or old style)
http://needlebar.org/nbwiki/index.ph...achine_Company
Online Manual for Model A
http://www.needlebar.org/main/manual...me/1index.html
Smithsonian scans of manual
http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollect.../NMAHTEX/0873/
http://ismacs.net/newhome/manufacture_dates.html
Model ID: (I'd need a face on shot the be sure, but my guess is a Model A (new or old style)
http://needlebar.org/nbwiki/index.ph...achine_Company
Online Manual for Model A
http://www.needlebar.org/main/manual...me/1index.html
Smithsonian scans of manual
http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollect.../NMAHTEX/0873/
12-04-2015, 08:55 AM
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Nice!
That's the older Style - Needlebar lists it as Model A type 1. I've seen some with boat shuttles and some with bullet shuttles. I have one with a bullet shuttle, which do you have?
I've been watching for a manual, but so far I've only found them for round corner Model A machines.
That's the older Style - Needlebar lists it as Model A type 1. I've seen some with boat shuttles and some with bullet shuttles. I have one with a bullet shuttle, which do you have?
I've been watching for a manual, but so far I've only found them for round corner Model A machines.
12-04-2015, 09:04 AM
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That Smithosonian manual is "almost" what I"m looking for, but it's the boat shuttle version. They don't show a picture of the shuttle, but you can tell because of the directions for putting in the bobbin. Plus, accourding to Needlbar, the presser foot levers are different.
It's the later style that takes the bullet shuttle that is so, so similar to that "Favorite" machine.
It's the later style that takes the bullet shuttle that is so, so similar to that "Favorite" machine.
12-04-2015, 09:51 AM
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SteveH,
Thanks a big bunch. Just what I needed. I had looked at ISMACS and totally missed that chart.
The Smithsonian manual is probably the best match to this machine.
Cathy,
I think this one is Pre Model A type 1. More like the New Home New Style shown towards the top of the page. The description fits my machine as well.
It has the round shuttle and flat needle bar as well as the square corners. The Model A's show rounded corners.
At any rate I finally did it, a pre 1900 machine, 128 years old ........ WHOOO HOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe
Thanks a big bunch. Just what I needed. I had looked at ISMACS and totally missed that chart.
The Smithsonian manual is probably the best match to this machine.
Cathy,
I think this one is Pre Model A type 1. More like the New Home New Style shown towards the top of the page. The description fits my machine as well.
It has the round shuttle and flat needle bar as well as the square corners. The Model A's show rounded corners.
At any rate I finally did it, a pre 1900 machine, 128 years old ........ WHOOO HOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe
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