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kiffie2413 06-29-2013 05:00 PM

Another question..Singer 221K 1952 model that has a UK motor??
 
I am considering purchasing a Singer FW 221K, 1952, black model. It has a UK motor but the seller is including a new adapter. My question is when I looked it up what I find is black 221s were only made in the US...some 221Ks were made in Scotland...Is this likely what it is? I am mainly wondering if it would be possible to put a USA motor on it? Or would it even be necessary if it has the adapter? Lastly would it be the same high quality as the American one?
Sorry for all the ???
Thanks for any and all help,
Kif
PS Thanks to Mizkaki and Noel for input on my other post!

mom-6 06-29-2013 06:15 PM

I think if the model is a "K" it was made in the plant in Scotland.

kiffie2413 06-29-2013 06:19 PM

Thanks mom-6, I am pretty sure thats right. I just don't know if the quality is the same..the lady who is selling it says she bought a new converter and tried it and everything works. Pictures show a machine that looks beautiful, but looks are only part of the deal, eh? LOL...We are by no means rich, but I have saved to buy a fw, and I want to get the best I can...this is really a tough decision!
K

Mizkaki 06-29-2013 06:23 PM

Kif,

The black models were made in both America and Scotland. The serial number will tell where, but the 220V motor pretty much says "made in Scotland".
What type of adapter is the seller offering with the machine? You actually need a voltage converter, which are chunky and weighty.
Yes, if you want to change the motor to a 110V it is possible and easy. Used 110V motors are available online.


Cathy




Originally Posted by kiffie2413 (Post 6150776)
I am considering purchasing a Singer FW 221K, 1952, black model. It has a UK motor but the seller is including a new adapter. My question is when I looked it up what I find is black 221s were only made in the US...some 221Ks were made in Scotland...Is this likely what it is? I am mainly wondering if it would be possible to put a USA motor on it? Or would it even be necessary if it has the adapter? Lastly would it be the same high quality as the American one?
Sorry for all the ???
Thanks for any and all help,
Kif
PS Thanks to Mizkaki and Noel for input on my other post!


kiffie2413 06-29-2013 06:59 PM

Hi Cathy,
I really appreciate all the help you are providing! Seller says she bought the adapter recommended by theoldsewingmachineman.com after asking them if the motor could/should be changed. Its a Simcon brand, here is a link to the listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181163947676...84.m1423.l2649
Regards,
K

Mizkaki 06-29-2013 07:55 PM

Kif,

Great, that is the converter that you need. Good luck on the auction.

Cathy


Originally Posted by kiffie2413 (Post 6151001)
Hi Cathy,
I really appreciate all the help you are providing! Seller says she bought the adapter recommended by theoldsewingmachineman.com after asking them if the motor could/should be changed. Its a Simcon brand, here is a link to the listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181163947676...84.m1423.l2649
Regards,
K


manicmike 06-30-2013 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by kiffie2413 (Post 6150776)
would it be the same high quality as the American one?

That's funny! Really, for so many reasons.

kiffie2413 06-30-2013 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by manicmike (Post 6151241)
That's funny! Really, for so many reasons.

Glad to give you a laugh!

kiffie2413 06-30-2013 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Mizkaki (Post 6151087)
Kif,

Great, that is the converter that you need. Good luck on the auction.

Cathy

Thanks Cathy! My only concern really was the difference in motors and how they were built..as I hear the 221 is such a workhorse. With much research and finding out motors are same excluding voltage and your helpful posts I can't wait to get in my new featherweight! :thumbup:
Kif

Mizkaki 06-30-2013 02:21 PM

Glad that I could help. Let us know if you get it.

Cathy


Originally Posted by kiffie2413 (Post 6152302)
Thanks Cathy! My only concern really was the difference in motors and how they were built..as I hear the 221 is such a workhorse. With much research and finding out motors are same excluding voltage and your helpful posts I can't wait to get in my new featherweight! :thumbup:
Kif



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