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    Old 06-29-2013, 05:00 PM
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    I am considering purchasing a Singer FW 221K, 1952, black model. It has a UK motor but the seller is including a new adapter. My question is when I looked it up what I find is black 221s were only made in the US...some 221Ks were made in Scotland...Is this likely what it is? I am mainly wondering if it would be possible to put a USA motor on it? Or would it even be necessary if it has the adapter? Lastly would it be the same high quality as the American one?
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    PS Thanks to Mizkaki and Noel for input on my other post!
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    Old 06-29-2013, 06:15 PM
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    I think if the model is a "K" it was made in the plant in Scotland.
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    Old 06-29-2013, 06:19 PM
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    Thanks mom-6, I am pretty sure thats right. I just don't know if the quality is the same..the lady who is selling it says she bought a new converter and tried it and everything works. Pictures show a machine that looks beautiful, but looks are only part of the deal, eh? LOL...We are by no means rich, but I have saved to buy a fw, and I want to get the best I can...this is really a tough decision!
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    Old 06-29-2013, 06:23 PM
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    Kif,

    The black models were made in both America and Scotland. The serial number will tell where, but the 220V motor pretty much says "made in Scotland".
    What type of adapter is the seller offering with the machine? You actually need a voltage converter, which are chunky and weighty.
    Yes, if you want to change the motor to a 110V it is possible and easy. Used 110V motors are available online.


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    Originally Posted by kiffie2413
    I am considering purchasing a Singer FW 221K, 1952, black model. It has a UK motor but the seller is including a new adapter. My question is when I looked it up what I find is black 221s were only made in the US...some 221Ks were made in Scotland...Is this likely what it is? I am mainly wondering if it would be possible to put a USA motor on it? Or would it even be necessary if it has the adapter? Lastly would it be the same high quality as the American one?
    Sorry for all the ???
    Thanks for any and all help,
    Kif
    PS Thanks to Mizkaki and Noel for input on my other post!
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    Old 06-29-2013, 06:59 PM
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    Hi Cathy,
    I really appreciate all the help you are providing! Seller says she bought the adapter recommended by theoldsewingmachineman.com after asking them if the motor could/should be changed. Its a Simcon brand, here is a link to the listing:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/181163947676...84.m1423.l2649
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    Old 06-29-2013, 07:55 PM
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    Kif,

    Great, that is the converter that you need. Good luck on the auction.

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    Originally Posted by kiffie2413
    Hi Cathy,
    I really appreciate all the help you are providing! Seller says she bought the adapter recommended by theoldsewingmachineman.com after asking them if the motor could/should be changed. Its a Simcon brand, here is a link to the listing:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/181163947676...84.m1423.l2649
    Regards,
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    Old 06-30-2013, 02:34 AM
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    Originally Posted by kiffie2413
    would it be the same high quality as the American one?
    That's funny! Really, for so many reasons.
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    Originally Posted by manicmike
    That's funny! Really, for so many reasons.
    Glad to give you a laugh!
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    Old 06-30-2013, 02:02 PM
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    Originally Posted by Mizkaki
    Kif,

    Great, that is the converter that you need. Good luck on the auction.

    Cathy
    Thanks Cathy! My only concern really was the difference in motors and how they were built..as I hear the 221 is such a workhorse. With much research and finding out motors are same excluding voltage and your helpful posts I can't wait to get in my new featherweight!
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    Glad that I could help. Let us know if you get it.

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    Originally Posted by kiffie2413
    Thanks Cathy! My only concern really was the difference in motors and how they were built..as I hear the 221 is such a workhorse. With much research and finding out motors are same excluding voltage and your helpful posts I can't wait to get in my new featherweight!
    Kif
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