Is my Kenmore 117 actually a White? Because those look pretty darn similar to the attachments I have for an old Kenmore. What all is under the WHITE umbrella?

117- White Sewing Machines (most USA, some models made in W. Germany)
119- currently unknown
120-New Process Gear (USA, a div. of Chrysler)
516-Gritzner Kaiser (West Germany)
158-Jaguar/Maruzen (mostly Japan, some Taiwan)
148-Soryu (Japan)
340-Necchi (Italy)
385-Janome (Taiwan) (Currently)

These are Kenmore source codes including White made machines. I'm sure there are more White made machines than just these.

Cari

Oh heavens yes, just verifying the White/Kenmore link.

My knowledge of White is fairly minimal. Cleveland, made their own cabinets, my grandmother still sews on hers, lots of direct drive, singerco.com has the manuals. The only one I have owned was a later Japanese one. It was nice, cleaned it up and set it loose.

Not nearly as minimal as mine. I know what the bobbins look like, lol.

Cari

Machines sold by Sears get quite interesting LOL!!

Early on, Sears used the name Minnesota as the badge, and over time had several different Mfg make machines with that name on them.

As to top clamp attachments, they are not interchangeable, and the differences are often subtle, but you can use things like the shirr plate, or included bobbins to help guess what they fit.

White as the wider slot, center needle hole and a slightly longer (think it's 5/8") distance between gap and needle hole. So far, White is the only one I've encountered that has a centered needle with the longer distance.

And is your cabinet the Singer #42 Art Deco one? Does it have the glass ink well in the top left drawer? If so, could you tell me the number on the bottom of the glass? I have been trying to find a top for mine but don't know what the numbers mean. By the way, great deal on that machine and cabinet even if everything in the drawers don't fit it.

I just answered in the other thread. It's 14. I have no lid. The machine is a 201 from 1938.

The "camel toe", attachments look like the ones for my mother's White Rotary, 1921 treadle machine. One of the bobbins,, with the slightly rounded top, is a class 66 and will work on your 201, The other bobbin is for a White or Kenmore, as they can use the same bobbin. The other attachments look like the ones you see in the blue velvet boxes. Sorry they won't fit a 201. The 201 is an excellent machine. I have two and love them. They will last into the next millenium, with care.

I'm kind of surprised no one picked up on what I believe is the thread cutter/holder that is in the second picture below & to left of the quilting bar. I think it is Singer part number 161585 and according to ebay is for featherweight sewing machines, which means you should be able to use on the 201. I have a few parts lists and still haven't found part number 161585. I have a "modern day" one but how it attaches to presser bar over the presser foot is shaped differently. I am one that likes the thread cutter on my machines and miss it if it is not there.

I think there may be a couple of tips (in the second picture, underneath the quilting bar ) for the tools that would be used to make the old punched rugs or seat covers made with narrow wool strips.

Smithsonian has the pdf for the Greist attachments. I'm not real good with links but believe this might get you to the pdf -- http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollect.../sil10-215.pdf

Have fun & enjoy the 201.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.