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Farmhousesewer 07-01-2015 03:41 PM

Furthermore, AG is the abbreviation for the German word for corporation. Cannot locate what the NB means at the moment.

I would get the machine.

Rodney 07-01-2015 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Farmhousesewer (Post 7244446)
Cabinet looks just like my German Pfaff 30-31, except I have a drop down leaf on the left. It is similar to a Singer straight leg, but the Singer straight leg usually has a full leaf that comes up & over the top and 4 drawers.

According to Needlebar, Singer NB AG, Berlin made a machine named Lotus. So yes this IS a Singer machine.

I'd grab it. You already said you're tempted. The important thing is whether you like the machine. I would be willing to take a chance that it's a 15 class bobbin and case underneath, maybe even the cover plate too. It's definitely a Singer cabinet and if what Maria says is true, it's an unusual find here. Someone would have to have bought it in Germany and then brought it here. Singer wasn't in the habit of putting other names on their machines. The only other example I can think of is Singer's Spartan machines but even those said Singer somewhere on them. Maybe Singer did these machines as something similar for the German market.
Rodney

sews 07-01-2015 10:06 PM

There it is on the German eBay site:
http://kleinanzeigen.ebay.de/anzeige...06837-240-2842

and

http://kleinanzeigen.ebay.de/anzeige...73677-240-2925

Macybaby 07-02-2015 05:56 AM

I hope you've brought that one home! It really is very neat - and an unsual Singer to have (at least in the US). I do really love the cabinet with the top insert to cover the machine when "closed" instead of the flip open lid. Means it needs a much smaller area to use, since it's no bigger open than it is closed. I have one Singer cabinet like that, but it's not a treadle.

I have a treadle base similar, but the cabinet had the typical flip open lid.

vflsun 07-02-2015 06:02 AM

I left work early to go pick it up. I called to let them know I was coming down to buy it. They wouldn't let me pay for it over the phone. When I got there one of the salespeople had sold it. They said they didn't know if I was coming because it had been a while since my call and the person I had spoken with was not there. So they sold it when a buyer came in. I had told the salesperson that it would take me about 2 1/2 hours to get there and she said okay. I was a bit upset about that. The only thing that made me feel slightly better is that the salesperson I spoke with called me this morning to apologize. She said she had left instructions for them and doesn't understand why they did what they did. Oh well, maybe something else is out there waiting for me. Thanks for all the help everyone, you guys are awesome.

ThayerRags 07-02-2015 08:17 AM

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Some of the German Singer machines and cabinets were different than most other Singers. I have one from the 1960s that came with a Singer 216G zigzag machine. It’s a semi-industrial or “artisan” treadle with an 18”x36” top and no extension leaf. Mine has a hood to cover the machine, four wheels, and a 12” flywheel. I believe that treadle machines were being made in Germany much later than in the USA or UK.

CD in Oklahoma

vflsun 07-02-2015 01:13 PM

That's a nice machine. I like the flat table. But I am on the hunt for another treadle. It has a 66 machine in it Decals are somewhat worn, the cabinet has been refinished. It appears to be a standard 7 drawer cabinet. And best of all, it's only across town.

MadCow333 07-02-2015 04:39 PM

Those German machines are very interesting. Thanks for sharing. I haven't seen those combinations before.

The treadle cabinet that the Lotus machine is in does look like the Postwar treadle cabinets Singer sold in USA. My mother started teaching home ec in 1949 or 1950. They had one or two treadle machines in the home ec department at that time, and all students were required to learn how to operate one. It was still a rural area, and some old farmhouses had only minimal electric, mostly for lighting. Europe continued handcrank, treadle, and 3/4 size machines far longer than USA did.

manicmike 07-02-2015 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by Rodney (Post 7244693)
The only other example I can think of is Singer's Spartan machines but even those said Singer somewhere on them.

They made another and called it a "Merritt" (named from the M in Isaac M Singer).

Farmhousesewer 07-05-2015 12:19 PM

I am sorry to hear that it was sold. It was not meant to be and another, even better one, will come along.


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