Originally Posted by Mickey2
(Post 8111259)
The older type model 15 with out reverse were made up until 1950 at least, not too long ago a lady in the UK told me hers was made in 1950 and had the old type nut and bolt type stitch length setting with out reverse. Maybe it was particular to the Kilbowie factory in Scotland, I'm not sure.
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Originally Posted by OilandThread
(Post 8127886)
I have a Singer 15K80 (fixed feed dogs and no reverse) which left Kilbowie wearing a serial number allocated in 1957!
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Originally Posted by Mickey2
(Post 8111259)
The stitch length lever was introduced around 1930 on model 15, or just before, around the same time model 201 was introduced.
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I need to rephrase that. Although it is true that the singer 201 made it's debut in 1932... the potted motor model 15 (unsure if this would be a 15-90 or 15-91) had been out since at least 1930. What's really interesting... is that while the 1930 15-91 had the same reverse/forward lever as the later 201's... the regular old 15 with an external electric motor and belt drive continued to have a lever much like the one in the OP's photo up until at least 1937. I'm still at a loss to discover when exactly the belt driven 15's were given the 91 type lever.
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Interesting info Steelsewing. I have not been able to get accurate details on the introducition of the 201. The earliest date I have read is 1928, but some give 1930 as a date too. I guess there were a few years of development, test productions, I just have to note down the best ducumentation when I come across it. There were definitely many years of overlapping in production of the various version of 15 and other models. I have come across late 28s too, with serial numbers dating production to more than a decade after the 128 arrived.
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I'll be the first to admit that I was perhaps somewhat narrow in the search. I began checking casting dates. In particular the late 1920's and early 1930's, and went off the AC and AD lists only. I probably should have looked at other letter codes to verify. Then, for fun (?) I checked online auctions for photo and descriptions of 15's, and tried to keep on this side of the pond. So the findings may be flawed. The production dates on the 101 probably hampered this since it was a US only machine and the 201 supposedly replaced it. If the 201 is being made in 1932, then it took Singer several years to 'replace' the 101 as both appear to have been being built concurrently for several years. As helpful as casting dates are... they don't differentiate a run of 15's from a run of 15's, leaving all sorts of room for speculation.
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There is a page with 201 info, it is written by a guy who has gathered a lot of info on old sewing machines and has worked with the for years. He has most details on the Kilbowie factory. I don't know where he found the information. From a quick search on serial number lits, the earliest UK production I could find was 1934. This is from his 201 page;
The Singer model 201 first hit the streets just before the Great depression of 1929 but sales really took off for the Singer 201 just before World War II and boy what a machine it was, quite possibly the finest straight stitch domestic sewing machine in the world at the time (arguably it still is). However by 1939 Singer was busy with the war effort and so all but essential sewing machines took a back burner. |
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