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mjhaess 01-23-2012 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by janeite (Post 4895114)
So I have been wanting to get some tri flow or singer sewing machine grease for the gears of my sewing machines. My husband suggested I just use some of the grease he uses for his tractor. According to him, a gear is just a gear, no matter if it is in a sewing machine or a tractor.

I have read about grease before online, and I do remember that even Vaseline can be used in a pinch.
This has really got me wondering if he is correct. I didn't want to use it until I asked here. I figured y'all would know!

I was told by my machine repairman that you should never use any grease in these machines other than that which is made for the machine. Our JoAnns quilt handling the grease for these old machines. I was told by a sales person that the grease is going to be discontinued because of the decrease demand. I went to ebay and bought 10 tubes very reasonable.

Bennett 01-23-2012 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by LindaR (Post 4901756)
I was very interested in this subject....does a treadle need the lube? I was sewing with mine the other day and if froze up completely...panic, but then oiled the shaft and inside of head and it took right off again...am I not oiling enough????

I'm really not sure which would be better on the treadle mechanism, lubricant or oil. When I was de-gunking mine, I cleaned all the nasty junk out from the bearings on the pitman rod and put in a little new lubricant. I oiled the heck out of all the other metal-on-metal moving parts (putting down some protective newspapers on the floor). It certainly helped the treadle mechanism move freely and quietly.

k9dancer 01-23-2012 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by LindaR (Post 4901756)
I was very interested in this subject....does a treadle need the lube? I was sewing with mine the other day and if froze up completely...panic, but then oiled the shaft and inside of head and it took right off again...am I not oiling enough????

SHORT VERSION: Only gears need grease/lube; all other metal to metal parts get oil.

miriam 01-23-2012 08:19 PM

I went to the sewing machine shop to get some grease and the old timer in there told me just to use oil... I have been known to use triflow grease on the gears and triflow oil on anything that moves. My mom just put one drop of sewing machine oil in every hole on her machine every once in a while since 1948 and that FW has run mostly pretty good that long - I cleaned it for her for Christmas - she says it has never been serviced before and it now runs like new.

k9dancer 01-24-2012 02:09 PM

One of the problems with putting oil on gears is that the gears throw the oil off, and if the oil manages to get onto your wiring, can eat through the insulation.

miriam 02-20-2012 04:51 PM

good info here

J Miller 02-20-2012 05:58 PM

Treadles are an archaic mechanical device. I grease the treadle plate pivots, the big wheel pivots and the ball bearings.
Mine moves so free I cannot set the machine with the needle up and have it stay there.

As for the machines. Metal moving parts get sewing machine oil. Metal gears get Tri-Flo grease. Plastic gears get nothing. Singer motors get Singer motor lube.

My machines run very smooth and the treadles can be run by one finger in the spoked wheel.

That's just what I've read and have found to work.



Joe

Hank 06-02-2012 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by janeite (Post 4895114)
So I have been wanting to get some tri flow or singer sewing machine grease for the gears of my sewing machines.

Please, be sure to read your manual. Some machines require oil in certain locations (usually the oil holes), and other locations (usually the motor) require grease. In general, moving parts with little load can use oil. Bearings, usually require grease.

Don't use regular oil (motor oil) on sewing machines. A machinist once told me that the oil he recommends on brass bearings and other sliding surfaces was transmission oil. He said to never use regular motor oil. That motor oil will gum up, he said. Transmission oil is designed to not gum up. This is what I use on my 1951 Singer lock-stitch machine. Just oiled the machine the other day for the first time since I've had it. And it really picked up the performance and smoothness and dampened the noise as it operated. Also, I don't have to manually turn the wheel, almost never, to start the machine running anymore. Works great in the places where oil is recommended by the manual. And a whole quart sells for around $3.00. Automatic Transmission oil. Not Motor oil!

My machine's manual says that two locations need the special Singer grease. Haven't tried that yet. But will possibly take a look and see what actually is being lubricated at these spots to give a recommendation for an alternative replacement for the original Singer grease.

janeite 06-02-2012 06:44 AM

Hank, I never would have thought to use transmission oil. Hmmm. I ended up getting some Triflow grease and some Triflow oil.

J Miller 06-02-2012 09:39 AM

The Tri-Flo is by far the better choice for sewing machines. TF oil for oily places, and TF grease the greasy places. But for Singer motors you need Singer grease. So far I don't know of any substitute for it. It's still available so I'm not really searching too hard.

Joe


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