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drkaj 07-20-2023 05:26 AM

Hello
 
I have a vintage 27-4 singer sewing machine. I have been trying to learn how to use it. I have tried to thread the bobbin BUT the bobbin keeps falling off. I notice that the spring part on the left side does not seem to have much tension in it. Can this be fixed??

OurWorkbench 07-20-2023 07:00 AM

Welcome to QB, drkaj. There should be a screw that can be tightened, but it might be stripped or the spring out of shape.

Do you have a manual? There are several free ones on the web.
https://res.cloudinary.com/singer-se.../268_27_28.pdf
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/12...Singer-27.html
https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mac...ine-manual.pdf
https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mac...-manual-bw.pdf
https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mac...ine-manual.pdf
https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mac...form-k-204.pdf

New shuttles are available
https://www.sewingmachinesplus.com/pd60-8327.php
https://www.sewingmachinesplus.com/BP7172.php
https://www.quilters-connection.com/...-x50808710.htm
https://www.vintagesingerparts.com/p...16315bba5&_ss=
https://www.amazon.com/Bobbins-Shutt...7QB11MWX&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Shuttle-Bobbi.../dp/B0758JSTXL

There is a good page about shuttles at https://www.treadleon.net/sewingmach...vsshuttle.html

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AlZilla 07-21-2023 08:55 AM

A better description of the problem might help along with some pictures of whats happening. Do you mean that the shuttle (the boat shaped thing that the bobbin goes into) is falling off the carrier?

How about you? Are the experienced with these types of machine, or are you just learning?

Is it possible that you have the wrong shuttle, or do you know for a fact that it's worked in the past with that one?

drkaj 07-21-2023 05:52 PM

Thank You. I do have the manual, I printed it .It is the bobbin winder itself and there is no screw to tighten. I removed it from my machine and any going tomsoak it in paint thinner to see if maybe it is gummed up inside. I read that tip somewhere.
the spring is inside the encasement and I don’t thin’ the end will come off t9 replace the spring.


AlZilla 07-22-2023 04:35 AM

(this may be a double response)

Ahha! You did say "winding". I need to pay more attention...

I think you've got it right, it's probably gummed up internally. Rubbing alcohol is another great crud cutter. Q-Tips work well for getting into the nooks and crannies.

drkaj 07-22-2023 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by AlZilla (Post 8610110)
(this may be a double response)

Ahha! You did say "winding". I need to pay more attention...

I think you've got it right, it's probably gummed up internally. Rubbing alcohol is another great crud cutter. Q-Tips work well for getting into the nooks and crannies.

Thank You!! I will try the alcohol!

drkaj 07-23-2023 02:36 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Attachment 644832I am wondering if the end of this , circled in red, comes off so that the spring inside can be replaced?

AlZilla 07-23-2023 02:50 AM


Originally Posted by drkaj (Post 8610195)
Attachment 644832I am wondering if the end of this , circled in red, comes off so that the spring inside can be replaced?

So you must still be dropping the bobbin?

I've never even looked at disassembling the bobbin winder. But it went in, so it must come back out!

You're blazing new trails now (for me, anyway). I'll look at one of mine later today and see if anything jumps out.

Meanwhile, it might not hurt to verify that you have the right bobbin. Maybe the length is slightly off. I'll measure a couple of mine today and report back.

drkaj 07-23-2023 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by AlZilla (Post 8610196)
So you must still be dropping the bobbin?

I've never even looked at disassembling the bobbin winder. But it went in, so it must come back out!

You're blazing new trails now (for me, anyway). I'll look at one of mine later today and see if anything jumps out.

Meanwhile, it might not hurt to verify that you have the right bobbin. Maybe the length is slightly off. I'll measure a couple of mine today and report back.

Thank You! The bobbins are the original ones that came with te machine. They fit good but just wont stay in when trying to wind the thread on. The tension on the piece circled is not strong enough to hold it in place. The spring inside of that piece is very weak. That is why I was wondering if the spring can be replaced. I cant get the end piece off , maybe because it is gummed up or maybe it does not come off. But I really agree with your statement ---"But it went in, so it must come back out!" I really hope I can get this fixed. I have looked online to find a replacement bobbin winder but cant seem to find any. I am nervous about buying off of ebay cause there are no guarantees.

bkay 07-23-2023 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by AlZilla (Post 8610110)
( Rubbing alcohol is another great crud cutter. Q-Tips work well for getting into the nooks and crannies.

Alcohol removes the paint. Kerosene is the best when dealing with painted parts. I buy lamp oil at Walmart. Get the unscented. It's on the isle with the candles. (Our grand and great grands used Kerosene in their lamps before electricity was common.)

bk


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