Is it the typical flat on one side?

The MTx190 that Joe talks about in the other thread, linked earlier, are not flat, but round. I bought some for my Davis and they work great, just have to remember which way to put them in!

Jp

Hi Caroline,

The 1-3/4" needle is a 20x1 (Singer), BB (Free), and Boye #12 (Boye Brand) which is about the most common New old stock needles available. There are many more brands, the Ismacs needle list has 12 suppliers and/or manufacturers each with their own needle "size" for this at one time common needle.

http://ismacs.net/needle_and_shank/p...eedle-list.pdf

You can also try lowering the common 15x1.

I don't know of any readily available modern industrial needles that will take the place of the 20x1 as in the case of the MTx190 for Davis long needles or MY1014 for W&W8,9,D9,& Singer 9W.

Jon

Thanks for all of the info! I tried lowering my standard 15x1 but just couldn't get it to work. I could only lower it a few millimeters before it affected the direction of the needle and kept it from going into the hole in the needleplate. Those few mm are aaaalmost but not quite enough. I ended up ordering the MTx190s - I'll update when I try them out... My fingers are crossed!

Jon,

I have two machines that use the 20x1 needles. I have fits finding them. I have spent hours on the net looking for sources to no avail. Occasionally I can find some on eBay, but usually those are not the size I want.

So, what is good source for this most common New old stock needle? I've actually quit looking cos I can't find a good source.

Joe

It seems in my experience also, that a little leeway exists in where the shuttle carrier is in relation to the needle psn. On some machines I've needed to move them closer, a bit, or even slightly bend the shuttle carrier upwards, or twist it a hair so the point lifts up. This is with the correct needle installed. (missed stitches). Some old manuals talk about adjusting needle height for different materials.

Hi Joe,

In my experience the most commonly found NOS needle is Boye brand though not necessarily the cheapest or best bargain. If you do the ebay thing and have time to hunt, bargains ($1 needle or less) can be found. The Queen is is the #12 wood tube with 3-4 needles and come in a range of needle sizes which may or may not be good. There are also BB needles and 20x1 needles for sale on ebay though are not as commonly found as the Boye's. I'd imagine people dealing in machine parts or old time dealers would have some laying around though I don't know of anyone to recommend and you've probably already tried this approach.


Jon

She is a beauty, and still the only Queen I have had the pleasure to meet.
Until today.
Today, 4 years later, I met her less fancy sister:
https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/59033941

You're a lucky duck! The Queen is gorgeous!