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beckalou 04-20-2012 08:24 AM

Neighbor gifted me with this today
 
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Our neighbor had this sitting out in his open shed, was going to sell it for scrap but gave me the option of bringing it home. It is now sitting in my dining room, needs cleaning up. The machine that goes with it is in another location & I am not sure if I will be able to get it. My Pfaff Hobby 1200 Grandquilter will fit perfectly into the recessed area with only minor modifications. Here are a few pics, I would like to know what model of machine came with this originally. I am thinking something Industrial. It is a treadle base, but has a 1/3 Horsepower motor mounted in the rear. Plugged it in and it purrs like a kitten. The number on the switch at left front is 797307 and there are two numbers on the motor: S94161-R and M 539088. There is a paper bag of needles in the drawer that are short shank. Any help would be greatly appreciated, I might just have to find a singer machine to put in it.

jljack 04-20-2012 09:53 AM

Hard to say...there were actually quite a few industrial type machines from 1920s-1940s, any of which could have been in this base. Nice that you got it!!

ThayerRags 04-20-2012 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by beckalou (Post 5156781)
...I would like to know what model of machine came with this originally. I am thinking something Industrial. It is a treadle base, but has a 1/3 Horsepower motor mounted in the rear. ..

Hi beckalou,

That is an unusual industrial stand. It’s called a “Singer Combination Industrial Stand”, because it’s both treadle and electric, and can be converted back and forth quickly. It has a two-piece pitman rod on the treadle flywheel that can be disconnected by removing the coupling nut in the pitman rod, and the electric motor control can be attached to the same treadle plate with an adjustable two-piece hooked rod. It’s one of the few straight-leg Singer Industrial treadle stands, if not the only one (most Singer Industrial treadle stands have the ornate cast iron legs). Many Singer industrial treadles have been converted to electric, but this one was sold to be both at the same time, with only a quick change of the power means.

I have one that is missing the coupling nut on the pitman rod (hard to find), and it came to me with a Singer 31-15 in it. Other Singer Industrials can be mounted in it (my 96-40 machine for one) if they require a 7” x 18 7/8” cut-out and have a 13 3/8" pin spacing.

Great find! Wish it was mine.

CD in Oklahoma

Mariposa 04-20-2012 09:58 AM

Neat find! Congrats!

beckalou 04-20-2012 09:59 AM

Oops! The motor size is 1/4 HP as you can clearly see in the last picture. And hubby says that the treadle looking pedal he thinks is actually a brake to stop the machine? I talked to my neighbor and it doesn't look as if we are going to be able to get the machine that goes in it. But I am very happy with what I have. I may be getting another old Singer today. The neighbor has another one she wants to get rid of, it's at least 30 years old. She can't remember what color it is, her hubby will be pulling it out later today.........can't wait to see what it might be. It's in a cabinet, but the leg is broke on the cabinet.........I have no problem with that........lol

J Miller 04-20-2012 10:00 AM

It's an industrial table for sure. My local SMG has one just like it with a big machine in it. I'd kind of push the issue and try to get the machine that came out of it.

Joe

momto5 04-20-2012 04:01 PM

Pretty cabinet, sleek design for the age of it! I'm jealous!!!

ThayerRags 04-21-2012 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by J Miller (Post 5157064)
... My local SMG has one just like it with a big machine in it..
Joe



Joe,

beckalou’s industrial combination stand is only the second one like these that I’ve seen. There was another industrial combination stand that was made for the same application, but it had curved cast iron legs instead of the straight legs. Can you get a photo of the one that your local SMG has?

CD in Oklahoma

Latrinka 04-21-2012 05:19 PM

Sweet gift!

margecam52 04-21-2012 08:30 PM

I think you are right...an industrial...early model, but an industrial. I had a Juki upholstery machine made in 1975...it had a foot pedal, not unlike the treddle. you push forward to go and back on the heel to help stop the machine. That is a powerful motor, and if you just stop...the machine runs on for a good 5-10 stitches. Nice of the neighbor to give it to you.

kiffie2413 04-21-2012 08:52 PM

Good for you that you "rescued" this great find from being scrapped!! :eek: Its great that the machine you have will fit in it without too many modifications, especially since you said the machine that came in it is probably not an option for you to get.
Regards,
Kif

mtpockets1 04-22-2012 08:13 AM

I have several industrial machines and didn't know about the different tables. From now on I will double check them and see. Thanks ThayerRags and beckalou for the info.

beckalou if you decide to get an industrial Singer I would suggest getting a 107W as it does both the straight and the zig zag if you like vintage otherwise maybe a 14U if it fits. I use my 107W1 all the time and my friend just loves using it for satin binding. I have a 31 15 from my aunt and uncle and can't get rid of it but use the 107W1 for quilts and heavy duty stitching. Those machines take care of pretty much anything I want to do, even my husbands projects without any problems or worries about breaking! Needless to say I really love the industrials, both sergers and regular. Hope you decide to look for one and see how great they are once you get use to the power or get a Servo motor!

Good luck!
Lisa

beckalou 04-22-2012 04:32 PM

Lisa,
I would love to find a machine to go in this stand, would prefer to find a Singer with a glossy black paint job on it since it will be on display in my dining room. Not sure which of the models would fit in it if there are any with that type of finish. I'll be searching with tape measure in hand.
Becky

DonnaQuilts 04-22-2012 06:22 PM

Oh good, a new home for an old friend. Lucky you.

Quilt Mom 04-23-2012 05:24 AM

OOH... lucky you!

I hope you can get the machine that originally was in the table.
The set-up is similar to the table for my 31-15, but mine is a later one, not the cast iron legs and pedal. I want to treadle the 31-15 eventually, but am using it tailed for now.

BarbaraSue 04-23-2012 10:17 AM

Congratulations! It is a pretty unique table to have. I'd jump at the chance too.

greywuuf 05-08-2012 03:31 PM

So, did you end up with a machine for this table ? I just picked up a similar table, though mine has wooden straight legs, and unfortunately a european 220 volt 50 hz motor. Mine will be primarily a treadle machine ;-)

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