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bkay 11-30-2016 07:08 AM

Singer 301
 
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There's a tan 301 with a short bed at an estate sale coming up this weekend (that I would like to look at for purchase for me). I'm on their mailing list and they post photos. The lady made square dance costumes, so there is lots of fabric, the 301, along with a White sewing machine, an Elna and a SM in a case that you can't see.

The 301 doesn't appear to have a case. Is there anything specific that I should look for as far as problems on the 301? I looked on closed ebay and the tan short beds seem to go for $50- $75 without a case or accessories. Does that sound about right?

Is there anything special about the White or Elna that would make them a worthwhile purchase?

These folks will go to 75% off on the last day of a sale. I've even seen them go to $5.00 a box. So, they will sell everything no matter the price on the last day.

bkay

Mariposa 11-30-2016 07:13 AM

Personally, I'd go after the 301. Does it come with any feet, or other items? It is also a slant shank, taking the slanted feet.

Irishrose2 11-30-2016 07:52 AM

That is the LBOW (two tone) machine which is considered more desirable than the plain tan. That being said, I have two plain ones that I am very fond of - one is my go to quilting machine and one is for back up. The Elna pictured is the 64C, which is my favorite machine for anything except quilting. The foot pedal and case on that Elna aren't original. Odd.

Mickey2 11-30-2016 10:09 AM

The Elna is very nice, a model reaching the same prices as Berninas around here. It has options for all kinds of stitches, stretchy and decorative. It's driven by two belts, so more silent running than the older Supermatics. I think there are some improvements to the race and hook too. The flat beds are few and far between, I usually only come across the freearm version. I would jump for it, even if I would have to search down a suitable pedal and a few accessories.

HiDesertQuilter 11-30-2016 12:06 PM

301 and Elna! I'd be bringing them home! 301 first. Accessories are easy to get for these. Elna is a super nice machine.

Kas 11-30-2016 01:08 PM

What everyone else said! 301 and the Elna. Just make sure the bobbin case is in the 301. It's the same as the Featherweight's bobbin case and they sometimes go "missing"!

bkay 11-30-2016 04:43 PM

Thanks, I appreciate the tip on the bobbin case. I just checked the price on them. They aren't cheap.

I had not really thought about the Elna. What model of Elna is that? I need to research it some before I buy it.

Sewing machines are usually not a hot item at an estate sale. This one has a lot of fabric, so it will draw the quilters. That will make the machines more likely to sell earlier and at a higher price.

bkay

NJ Quilter 11-30-2016 07:44 PM

I'd definitely go for the 301 but I'm a cheapie...not sure I'd go more than $25 w/o a case (or with one for that matter which is why I don't currently own one!). Yes, make sure the bobbin case is there - otherwise a major bargaining chip! So is no case and/or table. Then again, a card table might be stashed in there somewhere - who knows. That might make the deal worthwhile.

I'd also be tempted by the Elna but probably not a model I'd be willing to pay much for. I'm a grasshopper-lover gal (don't own any though). The White - no great shakes from what I can see.

MFord 11-30-2016 08:28 PM

I have a black 301 short bed that came in a cabinet. Seems that the short bed was the cabinet machine and the long bed was the portable machine....so look for a cabinet with the correct size opening and metal holder (drat -don't remember the word, but the machine sits down in a metal "base" inside the cabinet opening.)

The 301 is a sweet machine, but it uses the Featherweight size bobbin, which holds much less thread than the standard "15" bobbin most machines seem to use now. Just wind two or three at a time!

miriam 12-01-2016 03:33 AM

Some times a White can be a really nice machine. They are usually not very expensive. I don't know that model. The 301 is a nice machine but the Elna is a wonderful machine if you do any appliqué or use decorative disks. I love the stretch stitches mine makes. You would need a manual with it. Disks can be pricy. It uses short shank attachments.

Snooze2978 12-01-2016 07:11 AM

The Elna looks like a SU62. Elnas back then were totally made of metal innards so sturdy. Had mine for years and still kicking myself for selling it. Mine never saw the inside of a repair shop. I know Singers are well made too but I'm partial to the Elna because I had one so many years ago. The power foot doesn't look original on it though. The lid can be used as an extension table and it is also made of metal. You can also get cams that you place under that top lid to make more fancy stitches. The older Elnas were green and called grasshoppers. If you can get it for around $5 you got yourself a deal as I haven't been able to find one on Ebay for less than $250 and they don't look in as great a shape as that one does.

Just noticed a brown lid in the background. That's not the lid that goes with it. Should be a metal medium blue lid. Also noticed that one is not a free arm but a sit-in so maybe that is the lid.

sewbizgirl 12-01-2016 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by MFord (Post 7709734)
I have a black 301 short bed that came in a cabinet. Seems that the short bed was the cabinet machine and the long bed was the portable machine....

This is not true. All 301's are portables, even the ones in cabinets. They all have the handle built into the top of the arm, and the ones in cabinets can pop out and become portables with the press of a lever. This was a great selling feature of the machine.

The 301s were the first 'slant o matics', and they are strong, gear driven machines. Can't go wrong with a 301. You'll never want to sew on a Featherweight again!

Bug Lady 12-01-2016 08:06 AM

I would go for the Singer 301. I have one that my mother bought herself in 1957 from her egg money. It is also the machine I learned to sew on. I use is frequently for my sewing quilts.

They are easy to service and sew like a dream--it sews more quietly than the others around me. Best of luck.
Karen

bkay 12-02-2016 01:06 PM

The 301 was gone when I got there. They had $125. on the White and $165. on the Elna. Neither had any accessories or manuals. So I bought about 20 pounds of quilting fabric. (Just what I need - more quilting fabric.)

bkay

Mickey2 12-02-2016 01:56 PM

When accessories are no longer with the machine, and possibly need replacment parts like the pedal, etc., I don't think you should pay much at all. When I pay $165 it's a model I have had my eyes on previously, and it's mostly intact, case, cabinet, accessories included. I easily find my self paying $40 for faulty machines though, as long it's meets my requriements :- )

bkay 12-02-2016 03:11 PM

That's how I got my 503. It was $35.00 and in a reeealy ugly cabinet. I love it. It's not perfect, but sews really well. It just needs a little paint touch up. There's a $40.00 401 or 403 on Craigslist right now. If I didn't have to drive 30 miles for it, I might bite. I gave away my 328, so I have to have something to work with those cams I bought on shopgoodwill.com . I have a 319 in the storeroom, but I doubt it works. It appears to be too complicated for a clean up and oil 'em person to get going. It's another one of those auction machines.
bkay

Mickey2 12-02-2016 04:02 PM

You have a lovely collection of machines. I think you are up to looking at the 319. It takes a bit longer to sort out cleaning and oiling, but within what you would expect. I know some have had issues with timing on these and damaged bobbin case, but once sorted out they have stitched reliably. There's the issue with needle type, if 15x1 is used it will damage the bobbin case unless it's adjusted for it (how do you check for that?). Originally they all took 206x13.


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