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oldsewnsew 04-08-2014 07:46 PM

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I pulled the needle plate screws on a 201, and I get #8-40.
Here is a picture of some tools used with threading.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]470785[/ATTACH] From the left is a die handle, for cutting or cleaning (chasing) threads for a screw. 2nd is a die for the same. 3rd and above it are tap holders, which hold the 2 packaged items. The red/white package is an 8-32 tap, pretty common, except on sewing machines. The yellow/green package is a #1 easy out, which needs a hole at least 5/64" (between 1/16 and 3/32") The tip of it would probably hit the interfering part before it gained any purchase on the bushing. Between the 2 packages is a thread guage, this one for metric fasteners. Taps and easy outs are a couple bucks a piece. The thread guage, maybe $7 or 10?
Machine screws have a defined outside diameter, what mostly varies is the number of threads per inch. (TPI) So a 6-32 screw has an outside diameter of (6 x .019) + .062= .176". It has 32 threads (teeth) per inch.
Hope this wasn't too boring!
So now chasing threads has another meaning for ya

oldsewnsew 04-09-2014 05:22 AM

Correction to #41 oops
 
"So a 6-32 screw has an outside diameter of (6 x .019) + .062= .176" "
Actually it's .062 + (.013 x screw number)= diameter on the outside of the screw threads. Hence
one of many online screw size charts
http://lelandpowell.com/metric.htm
I'm all through now, the audience has left the room, except for one old guy sleeping in the front row...

J Miller 04-09-2014 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by oldsewnsew (Post 6667061)
"So a 6-32 screw has an outside diameter of (6 x .019) + .062= .176" "
Actually it's .062 + (.013 x screw number)= diameter on the outside of the screw threads. Hence
one of many online screw size charts
http://lelandpowell.com/metric.htm
I'm all through now, the audience has left the room, except for one old guy sleeping in the front row...

Hey ..... I resemble that remark!

Thanks for the info on how to figure out the screw sizes. I always wondered how they did that.


Joe

miriam 04-09-2014 09:02 AM

I'm thinking we need screws 101 or something professor - I'm not ready for the advanced class.

oldsewnsew 04-09-2014 11:31 AM

well after years of screwing around, it's left me a little nuts!

miriam 04-09-2014 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by ThayerRags (Post 6662109)
Thanks Miriam. If it came off of a Singer 66, it must be a 9-spoke. I don’t think they ever put a 6-spoke balance wheel on the model 66.

The reason that I asked, is because the 6-spoke wheels that I’ve come up with all seemed to have a deeper hub than the 9-spoke. I think that my 6-spoke wheels have all come from model 27 machines.

I’ve not ever converted a potted motor machine (201-2 or 15-91) to handcrank, and I wondered if the collars on them would require the deeper hub for the Stop Motion Washer to fit correctly. Apparently not.

I’m getting overrun with 15-91s (they’re very common here - I have 10 and have turned down others), nearly all of them need re-wired, and I might want to begin converting some to hand or treadle use.

CD in Oklahoma

It is hard to find a bobbin winder/belt guard that fits with the deeper hub hand wheels. Most of the time they want to hit the wrong place.


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