Wheeler Wilson treadle...?
 

Does anyone know anything about this machine? By brother just picked it up, and I don't know anything about Wheeler Wilson machines.

https://idahoauctionbarn.hibid.com/l...ewing--machine

Congrats on your new machine. I don't know as much about them as I would like. IIRC Joe has one, maybe he'll chime in with his opinions.
Rodney

mine all covered up right now, I think the D9 was the singer version a w9 was w&w's

so a D9 came in a singer cabinet. The both the same machine, just after singer took over they became a D9 so 1905 up.

you got a super good price. seems like they take a 127 X ? needle, but you can short set a 15x1, short set = slip it down until it picks up the thread.

Congratulations! I don't know much about it but it looks like it has a nice harp space and the table looks in really nice condition.

xxxxxx... so you think this is a Singer? Or that the auction house got the ID wrong? I can't quite follow what you are saying there. Can you explain more?

Oh, but, the badge says it is a Wheeler Wilson D9...

I did think the cabinet looked pretty nice, though I haven't seen it in person.

I will hope that "IIRC Joe" sees this and lets me know if he has info.

This is a Wheeler and Wilson D9 made c. 1900 before Singer took over in 1905. I'm sure Joe will second this but these are fantastic sewing machines though needles and bobbins are a bit of a tough find. Like 10x mentioned they use 127x1 needles and use an obsolete "bagel bobbin". MY1014 needles will work as a replacement though sizes are limited. Shank is too large on a 15x1 needle to use unless the machine has been modified. After Singer took control of W&W they kept making these machine for a couple years and them modified the model to fit in Singer cabinets along with new decals. In 1913 the Singer 9W was replaced with the 115 which was also a Rotary.

Jon

singer did the slow take over on wheeler Wilson, something like 5 yrs. Then put the name singer ( 1905) on the machine untill that supply of parts run dry. That ended the 9 series machine.
it's the D9 and Bridgeport. making me think singer had contorl of WW at that point . WW's commercial line started with a D , but ( I think the home machines started with a W as in W9 , then singer came around and change this to a D9 yet had the name wheeler Wilson on the machine, then in 1905 /? put the name singer on the machine still using D9 . your photo won't open for me. I can't see the cabinet

yep I uncovered mine it's W9, it doesn't matter there all the same parts. They are about twice the machine that a singer is ( quality)
google wheeler wilson

ok there's the difference before 1900 w9 after 1900 and singer having control it became a D9, both branded wheeler Wilson, after 1905 final take over it became a 9w branded singer.

again all the same except W9 uses a 15x1 needle, I think joe has the W9 maybe both

They must have pulled the photo.

Here is ismacs version of the story. ismacs is known to be off on some things. Zoom in on the 1st photo you'll clearly see the W 9. In time you see machines with a D 9

near the bottom they mention the 12 w industrial,, yet mine is a D 12 should the chance ever come up to buy one of these, get it !!! Think... long arm treadle with reverse and knee lifter

http://ismacs.net/wheelerandwilson/w...g-machine.html