Wheeler Wilson treadle...?
#1
Wheeler Wilson treadle...?
Does anyone know anything about this machine? By brother just picked it up, and I don't know anything about Wheeler Wilson machines.
https://idahoauctionbarn.hibid.com/l...ewing--machine
https://idahoauctionbarn.hibid.com/l...ewing--machine
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mine all covered up right now, I think the D9 was the singer version a w9 was w&w's
so a D9 came in a singer cabinet. The both the same machine, just after singer took over they became a D9 so 1905 up.
you got a super good price. seems like they take a 127 X ? needle, but you can short set a 15x1, short set = slip it down until it picks up the thread.
so a D9 came in a singer cabinet. The both the same machine, just after singer took over they became a D9 so 1905 up.
you got a super good price. seems like they take a 127 X ? needle, but you can short set a 15x1, short set = slip it down until it picks up the thread.
#5
xxxxxx... so you think this is a Singer? Or that the auction house got the ID wrong? I can't quite follow what you are saying there. Can you explain more?
Oh, but, the badge says it is a Wheeler Wilson D9...
I did think the cabinet looked pretty nice, though I haven't seen it in person.
I will hope that "IIRC Joe" sees this and lets me know if he has info.
Oh, but, the badge says it is a Wheeler Wilson D9...
I did think the cabinet looked pretty nice, though I haven't seen it in person.
I will hope that "IIRC Joe" sees this and lets me know if he has info.
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This is a Wheeler and Wilson D9 made c. 1900 before Singer took over in 1905. I'm sure Joe will second this but these are fantastic sewing machines though needles and bobbins are a bit of a tough find. Like 10x mentioned they use 127x1 needles and use an obsolete "bagel bobbin". MY1014 needles will work as a replacement though sizes are limited. Shank is too large on a 15x1 needle to use unless the machine has been modified. After Singer took control of W&W they kept making these machine for a couple years and them modified the model to fit in Singer cabinets along with new decals. In 1913 the Singer 9W was replaced with the 115 which was also a Rotary.
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singer did the slow take over on wheeler Wilson, something like 5 yrs. Then put the name singer ( 1905) on the machine untill that supply of parts run dry. That ended the 9 series machine.
it's the D9 and Bridgeport. making me think singer had contorl of WW at that point . WW's commercial line started with a D , but ( I think the home machines started with a W as in W9 , then singer came around and change this to a D9 yet had the name wheeler Wilson on the machine, then in 1905 /? put the name singer on the machine still using D9 . your photo won't open for me. I can't see the cabinet
yep I uncovered mine it's W9, it doesn't matter there all the same parts. They are about twice the machine that a singer is ( quality)
google wheeler wilson
it's the D9 and Bridgeport. making me think singer had contorl of WW at that point . WW's commercial line started with a D , but ( I think the home machines started with a W as in W9 , then singer came around and change this to a D9 yet had the name wheeler Wilson on the machine, then in 1905 /? put the name singer on the machine still using D9 . your photo won't open for me. I can't see the cabinet
yep I uncovered mine it's W9, it doesn't matter there all the same parts. They are about twice the machine that a singer is ( quality)
google wheeler wilson
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ok there's the difference before 1900 w9 after 1900 and singer having control it became a D9, both branded wheeler Wilson, after 1905 final take over it became a 9w branded singer.
again all the same except W9 uses a 15x1 needle, I think joe has the W9 maybe both
again all the same except W9 uses a 15x1 needle, I think joe has the W9 maybe both
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Here is ismacs version of the story. ismacs is known to be off on some things. Zoom in on the 1st photo you'll clearly see the W 9. In time you see machines with a D 9
near the bottom they mention the 12 w industrial,, yet mine is a D 12 should the chance ever come up to buy one of these, get it !!! Think... long arm treadle with reverse and knee lifter
http://ismacs.net/wheelerandwilson/w...g-machine.html
near the bottom they mention the 12 w industrial,, yet mine is a D 12 should the chance ever come up to buy one of these, get it !!! Think... long arm treadle with reverse and knee lifter
http://ismacs.net/wheelerandwilson/w...g-machine.html
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