Windsor B, cast iron base, Electrified - Free
 

Ok, this is one for the books...

My EX shot me a text yesterday with a blurry picture of an "old iron sewing machine". It looked to have a motor, but the shot was bad enough to not be sure. She asked If I would be interested in it. Of course I said yes... (sigh... I know) How Much? She replied "nothing. it is a thank you for helping fix things from time to time". Too cool.

So, now I have more Trade-bait for older machines and parts....

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I forgot to take a new pic after I cleaned up the brass plaque. Shows patent date of 1920
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This required a quick teardown and repair.... but it works and is not damaged, just worn.
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This three-way connector is the coolest ever...
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Top stitch-Bottom Stitch (not too bad...)
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I love, love, love old machines. Does this have a name on it as to what maker? Too cool! You are lucky!

Sorry, It is a Windsor Model B, made by the National Sewing Machine Company. It has one serial number on the slide and a different one on the bed under the slide... working on the dating of the unit now.

Wow! Joey likey!

Joe

Oh Wow! Luck you!

LOL Remember, if you have a machine or parts of machines that are older than 1885 to trade with me, it could be yours!!!!

Beautiful machine, don't have any to trade. You do a lot to take care of these old ladies and Hats off to you.

That's a beauty!! I would love to add a footed base machine to my herd some day. Just because.

What a beauty!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've never seen one like that. Really cool!

This machine is more likely an "Expert BT"
 

Correction, It is most likely an "Expert BT" (3/4 sized machine)

That is a beautiful machine!!! I'd love to have it, but don't have anything to trade. The only really old machine I have (before my 1924 Singer 99) is my Gritzner hand crank. I don't know the age of it as I don't know where to look to check my serial number. It's going nowhere.

Trade Bait! A new one for the lexicon. Wish I had something really old to trade you.

Janis: Good for you! Guard that old gal.... (I have about 80% of an old Gritzner on my workbench that I got from Cathy..)

Caroline: Hehe, yeah, I'm full of em (as it were)

So here are photos of the two serial numbers

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I have joined the NSMCO yahoo group (National Sewing Machine Company) and there are some folks there who are diving into this one also.

I did learn that the cast iron base was an "Economy" option as it was less expensive to make than the wooden cases..
Go figure....

I also learned that the Motor and cast iron base combination narrows it to the 20's but the decals under the motor mount are hinting at an earlier machine that was electrified.

The real expert on the other group site is in the middle of a life drama, but has replied to me personally and assures me that when life slows down she will work on this with me... too cool.

What a beautiful machine.Let us know when you get it all figured out. Real great old girl, and they sew so nice.

Steve,

80% ?????? Where is the other 20%

Cathy

Gorgeous...good for you ....thanks for sharing.

I wish I had something older than my hubster to trade. Please consider him anyway.

That machine sure is pretty.

Ok, I'll bite what's a Hubster??

Hubster, AKA husband. :D :D

I have one also, so far no one has considered him as a trade. He is just way too high maintenance.

Beautiful machine Steve. Enjoy.

Have nothing older to trade --Darn =(

Yeah no.... I have no need for one of those... lol

So there is one on eBay now, and it looks nice! Not that I should be pushing Ebay after my recent experience, but I think this seller has invested enough time and energy in the machine, and is asking $47 shpg, to care to package it right. No telling what their reserve price is...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Windsor-B-Vibrating-Shuttle-Antique-sewing-machine-functional-show-piece-1912-/301054754004?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item461842 fcd4

I got the one from Ebay stitching by hand rather easily, although the paint has a weird rough texture unlike crackled shellac in most spots. It stitches better than my New Home does, even with its new shuttle.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]454689[/ATTACH] It's kind of growing on me, guess I'll see if the seller, who has offered a full refund (shpg 2x) to give me half the shpg to compensate for the damaged motor, and that way we both wind up with something. I like it's simplicity, tensioner, take up lever, stitch length lever and the dragon ( or griffin)
I'll watch ebay for a National motor to come up, I guess, and I see there is a bobbin winder on there now. This will be more expensive than is rational by the time it's all done:hunf:

I'm looking for a National made VS machine - but I want to be able to treadle it, so if I get one with a motor, I'll let you know.

I've got a 3/4 size Standard made machine, so it would be neat to get a 3/4 size National made machine to go with it.

Thanks Cathy, as you can see, I also need a bobbin winder cam and screw. I checked the ad photos and it was missing from those also. Guess I was too impulsive, duh... I'd love to find a hand crank for it. It has to threaded holes but not centered on the pillar, maybe I could make an adapter plate and use a Singer, if just temporarily.

That's one of the best I've ever seen!!! Thanks for sharing it. I love, love, love the foot shaped foot pedal! Another item to add to my dream list!! The decal-ed base is dreamy. I hate to say it but it's "totes my goats". Wowzer!

Beautiful! Jealous! :)

She's cleaning up nicely! Hunting down motor part or handcrank and bobbin winder cam... If I was in Oklahoma I could just visit CD and buy the whole machine he has on his wonderful website!
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another view
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side note, the old typewriter in background from the garage turns out to be a Royal "Quiet" which is different than Quiet Deluxe. Turns out Hemingway was fond of Quiet Deluxe but the Quiet is rarer. I messed it up a little when I used some SM oil in a place where I shouldn't but it's somewhat fixed and I can go back to filling out 3x5 cards with SM info. I will include them with any machines I part with in the future.
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hey steve - that is one cool, nice machine. your EX surely love you so much, ha. and for free. just awesome. getting your hand so full ? you can throw some of your old machines here or better yet, i could drive down there and i will surely take care of them. i mostly am into antique/vintage machines as i can tinker them. but recently got myself a 301A as i can't resist it. thanks.

PS: i am looking for a knee controller bar for my 28 and one of the member here mentioned that you could make one from scratch. is that something i should explore ? how much will it cost me ? will it be just better to check eBAY ? thanks again.

Yeah, my ex and I are still a parenting team....

My little version of this machine is currently collecting duct on my workbench. I only kept it because I was hoping to turn it into a handcrank, but the "national" style handcranks are hard to come by (here anyway)

Then I found a 3/4 New Home handcrank that I absolutely love to sew with....

Oldsewnsew has expressed an interest in the motor from this one. I will pull the machine out tonight and take a couple of motor pics. (BTW the foot shaped pedal would need to go with it)

I do not want to run afoul of the powers that be so I will NOT post the machines I am currently trying to re-home (hopefully without losing ALL of the money I spent to buy them) but if folks have seen me post pictures of electric machines that they would be interested in please PM me.

P.S. Email me about the knee bar. All you would need to do is to come down to my shop with the 28 and about 1-2 hours of time and then we can fab one up.