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    Senior Member vanginney's Avatar
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    Timing Gone.

    Took my vintage 1930s class 15 machine into the only repair shop in my small city. They said the timing mechanism was worn out and it was unfixable. No charge for the service but I would have rathered paid the 80 dollars and have it working.

    Is it the end of the road for this machine? I am new to vintage machines. Thanks in advance.

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    The timing mechanism is worn out ................ Hmmmmm

    And did he try to sell you a new one by some chance?

    OK, parts are available for the Mdl 15s. What series is it? 15-90, 15-91 ????????
    You just have to look for them. There is no such thing as unfixable, only a salesman who don't want to fix it.

    If I can bring a rusted up 99K back to life a real repairman can fix a 15.

    Joe

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    Ok that gives me hope. He didn't try to sell me anything and won't charge me. I have bought all my new sewing machines (3) from them in the past. Not sure of the series. I will find out and then look for used parts. I will ask if parts are found if he would fix for a fee? Does that sound reasonable?

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    So I thought I would by a feather weight to ease my disappointment. There are a few on eBay....is this timing wear a typical problem? Or any other sources for FWs that others have bought from and have been super satisfied with?

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    Parts are readily available. Now, it's possible what he meant to say is that the repair bill for his time would be worth more than you'd pay for another class 15 machine. And that's very likely. However, if you're attached to this particular machine it can be repaired. It just depends on how much cash you choose to throw at it. If you could do the repairs yourself, you'd only be out a few dollars for parts, but labor is what's going to really cost you.

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    I am not that handy. I have a 201-3 that is working, so I don't want to throw money at this 15 class one I had a hard enough time finding where to lub and oil the working one! Have always want a FW. Maybe I should spend the money in that direction.

    He told me he can't order the part from his singer distributor...

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    Ask around for an old time repair guy or someone familiar with the older machines. This is your best bet for replacement used parts for the 15 or servicing a new FW. Good Luck.

    Jon

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    Timing mechanism is worn out...never heard that one before...unless it is bent I really don't know what he is talking about.

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    put it in a basket and leave it on Joe's door step - it will be loved...
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first

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    I live in Canada! That might not work.

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    Joe's sewing machine rescue and rehab ranch. LOL. I'd give it a try but that is quite a way to drive.

    Joe

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    Was it an OSMG (Old Sewing Machine Guy) at the shop that told you the timing mechanism was worn out? I am wondering perhaps they did not have anyone there who knew how to time your machine. Don't give up on your sewing machine. If you can post a pic of your machine or give us the serial number we can try to help you bring her back to functionality.
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    Get J Miller on the phone; I bet he can walk you through it. I have a repairman here in TN who comes to my home and fixes six at a time for me for $180. Best thing that ever happened to both of us. He comes when he can, and I watch and learn. His full-time living "job" is repairing commercial machines for factories all over TN, etc. It is sometimes hard to catch him though; so I just stack them up and wait for him, he can't work on the new computerized machines, but he can sure get an old-timer back up and humming. Love, love, love him.
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    I pick the machine up tonight and I will ask more questions about what is wrong. The owner was trying to fixing it.

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    Picked up the machine and he said the whole shaft along the bottom needed to be replaced. He said this machine looked like it worked a lot. I bought it from an upholsterer so it was probably sewing heavy duty stuff it wasn't made for. He said if I find another machine he will service it for me. He didn't charge the $70 dollars. So I am on the hunt again and maybe keep this one for spare parts.

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    you need to find one with the upper end all rusted out and combine good parts
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanginney View Post
    I live in Canada! That might not work.
    K,.. I'll take it if you don't want to send it across the border.

    Seriously though, can you post a pic of the bottom of this supposedly worn out machine?

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    I am in SK. Here are a few picks. The needle doesn't pick up the bobbin thread. Name:  image.jpg
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    Oops!

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    Nice looking 15-90. Usually the 15's are an easy "fix" but if not hold on to the machine for parts.

    Jon

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    I'm gonna stick my neck out and say quite frankly that I do not believe that machine is unrepairable. Matter of fact I call BS on it.

    I have machines with so much use there is no decals left on the bed and they sew perfectly. That machine has so little wear on it the decals are near pristine. No way in Hades could the mechanics be worn out.

    You need to take that machine to someone who wants to and knows how to fix the oldies.

    Joe

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    There are repair shops that do not do vintage machine. They are factory trained and do not know how to do the old machines. Or it could be they don't feel like there is enough money in the vintage machines for the amount of time. I think if you do vintage you have to love it.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first

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    Sticking my neck out a bit further .... Elaine says: "Do you have the needle in the right direction, do you have the correct needle in it?"

    There are a number of things that will cause the needle to fail to pick up the bobbin thread. An incorrectly installed or incorrect needle is a common reason.

    Joe

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    Don't really have any other place to take it in town. But it will stay on my cutting table and help inspire me with the quilt making

    What kinda needle should I be using...I have just a regular one in.
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    OMG. Whoever is Elaine, please give her a huge hug for me Joe!....I put a size 16 needle in....the upholstery guy I bought it from gave me some...but I never used them. And I tried every direction...and it SEWS.....wow
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