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    Vintage Japanese 'Badged' sewing machine with fancy stitches

    Ok here we go - get your cameras out and take pictures of your Vintage Japanese 'Badged' Sewing machines with the fancy stitches. Some of the 15 Clones and zzers will say Deluxe etc. This is for the ones that do more than straight stitch or zig zag. Some use cam stacks and some use disks to make the stitches. I would love to know where to find manuals or repair manuals.
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    http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...s-t207877.html
    Link to Japanese Zig Zagger pictures.
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    I have some really beautiful machines and so not so beautiful. I hope they will all load some time. I'll start with one or two and let other people add theirs. I'll add more later. This one is really a pretty machine. It is a Dressmaker.
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    I won that machine at an auction. Actually I bid a dollar on a table and this machine was inside - very covered in goop. It took a LOT of work to get this machine to work. It works fine. It is not my Elna though. This one would go on a treadle.
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    Here is one - not so pretty - it says Rotary
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    Dressmaker seems to be a popular name for a lot of different style machines.
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    White sewing machine is pretty cool - this one needs a bobbin winder - other wise I like this one
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    Some of these controls have to have a lever pulled over to be able to turn the stitch selector knob - kind of clumsy for me. They do sew just fine - these should be inexpensive and I don't think you can destroy them too easily - well, not like the new plastic wonders.
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    Some of these machine are a trick to work. The Rotary just has a big knob for stitch selection - it turns and a line indicates which stitch you have. When you get to the end you have to go back the other way. Some of the knobs get pretty gooey inside with dried up oil. Triflow and a LOT of patience...
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    In my avitar is a pic of my DGD here and her 3 year old brother 'help' in the shop sometimes. Today I got a call from their momma. DD had a complaint. It seems I have taught them too well. DGS was oiling his rocking horse with Dawn dish soap today. Yup he was putting 'oil' in all the holes and cracks just like I showed him...
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    Kenmore made a nice machine - uses cams - this one still needs some work but seems like a good machine.
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    I sure hope the pictures loaded alright - some times I seem to get too many pictures on one page or something and they don't come up. Maybe I post them too soon after another picture. Then if I post them on another page the picture will show up.
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    I try to load the pics that don't come up again later. I'm not exactly sure about the Kenmore - not sure where it was made - some were made in Italy. I do know it is a very nice machine.
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    OK, so Miriam has a bunch of Japanese ZZ / fancy stitch machines. Cool .... so, to add to her thread here are my Japanese fancy stitch machines.

    Montgomery Wards, 7 Jewell Model URR-988A:

    It does not have any built in stitches but the ZZ and uses cams for everything else.

    Alden, SUZ-2 Super Deluxe Zig Zag:

    This machine has a very large built in cam stack. I think with all the variations you could do around 60+ fancy stitches.
    Marked J-A /3 which I believe is KOYO.

    Dressmaker 7000:

    Uses cams. Has 30 to choose from.

    Montgomery Wards, Signature Model UHT J275A:

    Uses cams but only came with a small number. Very nice and quiet machine. Marked J-A 10 and J-C 12. It is stamped HAPPY underneath.

    Sears Kenmore, Model 158-523

    This was a free machine . It lives in a cabinet, uses cams and is a very strong sewer. It is marked J-A 4 and was made by Maruzen/Jaguar.


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    Ideal Automatik

    This machine is marked J- no number on the lip of the bed and j-C 1 on the under side of the bed. Manufactured by Brother. The decal on the lip says: Made in the Republic of Ireland. All the printing on the machine is German and when we got it the original 240V German motor was still in place.
    It uses cams and has a set of 20 with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Kenmore made a nice machine - uses cams - this one still needs some work but seems like a good machine.
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    I'll try again to get this picture up. I'm not sure it was made in Italy or Japan though.
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    This one needs a set of disks - does anybody know what the disks look like?
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    And another Kenmore - a bit different - probably made in Italy - I do have a nice set of attachments and cams for it - the table is pretty cool too - it is sort of in storage though.
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    Miriam,

    I've got a set of cams I've never been able to match up to a machine. I'm going to bring them to try on the Kenmore you're going to or have picked up for us. We can check them on your machine too as the trap door is about the same size and in the same place.

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    cool - I have extra cams around that don't fit any thing I own and don't have any markings on them.
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    It should have been against the law to make cams without ID on them.

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    I'm wondering why we aren't putting more of these fancy stitch machines. It is kind of funny that some of the zig zag machines look so complicated. Do you think it is because the companies thought they could get more money for them?
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    Some of them are complicated. You need to adjust three or four different controls to get certain stitch patterns. Others are so simple it's funny.

    And I'll bet you they did charge more for the fancy ones like my Alden and the Morse Photomatic series than they did the plane ones.

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    The insides are different from one machine to another - some have metal camstacks with gears and some are more simple and some do have plastic cam stacks. Some just use cams with readers. I can remember the sewing machine guys warning people not to buy Japanese machines. I don't know if they were prejudiced because of the war or if the machines weren't as good as the others. Then in the 1970s they were saying only the European machines were any good. From what I have seen - I would prefer an old European machine than some of the Japanese I have looked at. But we are talking big bucks differences in some cases. For just straight sew or zig zag the Japanese machines are just fine and do an adequate job. For the fancy stitches I can see why you would go with European. I am not at all impressed with the newer plastic and stamped metal machines. I think they are not built to last any length of time and don't do any improved job of sewing. If you figure 95% of the time you are sewing straight stitches it isn't all that important to have the fancy stitches. I've had people lately buy a machine because it just does straight stitch and it is cheaper to get one than to take an electronic machine in to be cleaned. They can clean the vintage machines themselves.
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    I think my 158.523 belongs here instead of on the other thread. Check out this groovy set of attachments for it thoughName:  cams.jpg
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