Wilcox and gibb needle nut.

Old 04-05-2021, 05:00 AM
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Wilcox and Gibb I have enherited my great grandmas chain stitch machine...however ...the needle bar nut seems to have had its hexagonal shape worn down to a circle...not that I have the hexagonal wrench...but I am wondering how I can remove it and if I do will I be able to find a replacement nut? My gran would have had a million different spare nuts in match boxes but I'm damned if I didn't throw those out not knowing what in heaven they were for. So it may be gone in a bin. Or it may be on the thing but worn so badly away it has become a circle. Anyway if anyone can help I'd much appreocate it. Tanks.
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Welcome. Even though I do have a Willcox & Gibbs, I'm not sure I can help. I have a bunch of small open end wrenches, but do not remember which size is for the nut. If memory serves correctly, it is a tapered nut.

After oiling the nut from the top, I would be tempted to put a piece of rubber (like bicycle tire tube) around the nut and use a small pair of pliers or vice grips to try to remove it. Once off, I would (or get someone else to, LOL) file some sides on it, so that a wrench could be used. There are some tools to remove rounded bolts, but don't know if they would go small enough or convenient to use on a sewing machine.

Perhaps a picture would help and maybe some might have some ideas and correct dimensions.
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OK I have attempted to post a picture..took me a while to find the red reply so thanks for that tip or I'd never have found it. I'm a bit afraid to try taking it off until I'm sure that its not part of it...maybe it's the part the but goes on...not sure. Anyway I am on my phone so I am hoping the picture has worked...don't have a computer IMA afraid. Thank you so much for your help I really appreciate it. Not many people have or know about these machines even though they were once so popular!
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Nope, didn't come though. Is the file size smaller than 2MB? Did you scroll over to the far right of the screen to click on the Upload button?

I need to go to work, but will check during lunch to see if you were able to post pictures.

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I think it may have worked this time. Fingers crossed.
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I think it may have worked this time. Fingers crossed.
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No rush its been in the bank for 20 years so I must be patient with it lol! Although I am dying to see it make a stitch. !! I have a treadle singer as well also my great grannies...its all very exciting.
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Originally Posted by Coxgibbsinger View Post
I think it may have worked this time. Fingers crossed.
Yes, that worked. I thought that was what you were referring to. It looks like it has been used a few times without a wrench and without covering the teeth of a pair of pliers. There isn't much left to file to make it work with a wrench. I'm not sure what I would do in such a case.

I know someone that has more than one Willcox & Gibbs. I'll contact him and see if he has any ideas.

Also this takes a very special needle. If you are sewing regular cotton fabric you will probably want a "Nm 90/14" size needle. Groz/Breckert makes an equivalent. This link is for larger and intended more for the more industrial machines, rather than domestic sewing. https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Willcox-...wAAOSwbF1aKGLV

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Alas my machine is 140 miles away in a museum right now, but I can send a pic of the wrench made to fit it. but no Wrench isn't home either...
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Janey gave me a call concerning your problem. From the picture you posted I don't think the nut that is there is really a W&G needle bar nut. I can't imaging a real W&G nut getting that bad. The problem is that the original nut was actually tapered and it probably is impossible to replace. It is not a common nut and I doubt that your granny really had any spares that would have fit. That is probably why things look a bit strange down there because someone tried to come up with a fix for a lost nut. I will try and look at some of my W&G machines and see if I can make a suggestion. In the mean time I would suggest that you try soaking the nut that is there with kerosene and let it set a couple of days to try and make the nut(?) that is there a little easier to remove. Will try and send you another post in a day or two.
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