Both of her kids, 5 and 2, have a stomach virus. One has had a fever. She asked me to feel the 5 year old to see if I thought he had a fever. So I felt him and he felt fine. She asked me if I believed in determining a fever by touch and I said yes. She said she hadn't believed in it much. But she's working on her nurse practitioner degree and is doing clinicals with a cardiologist. She said he felt a patient and estimated the patient's fever to be 101.5, and it was. She was just amazed at this. She said back when the doctor went to school they had to rely on not having x-rays to determine pneumonia. What?? This doctor is my age 60, and I know that because I used to be friends with his ex-wife. She herself had pneumonia at 9 months. She asked me how they determined it and I told her x-ray. Do most young people this age think things were so archaic back in the 70s?