Champanier

Went to see this sewing machine listed on CL, and according to the serial number, it's from 1930. I don't think I want to take it on, but I could be convinced to buy it. The hand wheel doesn't turn and I couldn't get the bobbin out, but overall, it looks pretty good - just dirty. I just thought it was really interesting and wanted to share photos. (Sorry about the quality - it was in a dimly lit warehouse and we were trying to use a flashlight to help). I took a lot, so if anyone wants to see more, let me know and I'll post them.
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manicmike

What model is it? Looks like a home industry (or whatever Singer called it) machine, industrial decals. Looks a lot like a 206, or could be its predecessor?

EDIT: Looks like a 206G. Picture on NB web site

Rodney

I thought the German records were destroyed or lost during WWII. Isn't the 206 after WWII? I was thinking 1950s was when they were introduced.
Either way it's a great looking machine and one I would have a hard time passing up too.
Rodney

manicmike

Just did a quick check on ISMACS and there are records of serial numbers from June 1936 for the 206K http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_...l-numbers.html
This appears to be the earliest mention of it. Was the machine invented in Scotland or Germany? I'm about to investigate. OK, it seems they were both made around the same time, the mid 1930s.
Now I'm wondering where the 1930 date came from.

Macybaby

This is Singer's version of the Pfaff 130. Ok- that is not official, but having seen both that is basically what it is.

Check the belt over very well. You can get new ones (there is a guy that makes them) but they are expensive.

ThayerRags

That photo link goes to a 1936 Singer 206D made in Wittenberge, Germany.

I believe that the “G” models (206G, 215G, 216G, etc) were made in the 1950s in Karlsruhe, Germany.

Two different factories, two different times.

What is the serial number?

CD in Oklahoma

KenmoreRulesAll

Does the earlier 206 take the 206x13?

Champanier

The serial number is C3522407.
I found this online somewhere, not ISMACS.[TABLE="width: 712"]
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[TD]C-3.514.631 to C-3.764.520[/TD]
[TD]1930[/TD]
[TD]Wittenberge, Prussia, Germany[/TD]
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I am really torn about buying this. I have no idea where to stash it...and $50 seems like a lot.

ThayerRags

I’d say that all of the 206 machines can use the 206x13 needle, but when it comes to using the 15x1 needle, the answer is probably “maybe yes, maybe no”.

As far as I can tell, it just depends on which bobbin case the factory put on them. The ones with the open case seem to take the common 15x1 needles, while the closed cases seem to take only the 206x13. I’d say to go with what case it has on it, and then carefully test without power.

CD in Oklahoma

KenmoreRulesAll

I'd buy it because 1) it's a German Singer, thus collectible; 2) it's a great-looking machine with its distinctive script, German decals, 'oel', etc.; 3) it's in very good condition for its age; 4) it's from a dark and interesting time in world history; 5) $50 (from my perspective of watching CL in my area for a while) is a good price for a German Singer but that's very anecdotal; 6) this machine is a precursor to the Swing Needle series -- machines I like.

This is a machine I'd buy to collect, not necessarily use. Is the price negotiable?