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Thread: Just when I thought I was cured - SMAD strikes again

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    Super Member ArchaicArcane's Avatar
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    Just when I thought I was cured - SMAD strikes again

    A week or so ago I posted a link to a machine I'd been lusting after in the Giggles thread. Well, by the weekend, I still hadn't stopped thinking about it.

    A little back story: About 2.5 years ago I picked this machine up. I fixed her up and she was a lovely piece on the shelf but I had reached a point where I decided the machines I had here should be used, not just looked at. I gave her to my cousin. I've regretted it every day since. (She says I can have it back when she passes... she's older than me but wears me out when we go out together. I think I have a long wait on that one! ) When the machine I picked up this weekend showed up in the buy and sell, I didn't know what the brand was but I saw the similar bones and wanted her. Needed her.

    DH called it "righting a wrong" He was disappointed too when I gave "Winnie" away.

    On Saturday, we had to go out anyway, so I made an appointment with the seller. He wasn't going to be home, but his wife was. He also told me about the "other" machine that he had for sale, so I checked it out on the buy and sell and decided based on the asking price of that one (a treadled 127 missing slide plate and shuttle) of $295, I'd try to negotiate a little on this one too.

    We walked in the door and I just fell for her. I'm not proud of that poker face.

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    I love the way the wood aged, the inlay. (This is after a coat of Feed'nWax)
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    ETA: I think I have her dated to somewhere around 1903 - 1909 depending on the site you use, and that she's a Frister and Rossman "High Arm Transverse Shuttle" machine or a Class 48.

    No needle but the shuttle and a bobbin were there. One of the thread guides is broken, so DH will twist one up for me once I can find him a photo of the original. Bobbin tire was a wreck, so I kludged something for the time being. I think I will try to replace it with a 2460 tire.

    After a few hours on Sunday (and a good oiling on Saturday), she's sewing.
    I didn't have a 12x1 needle for her but I had some DBx1 needles that had a shank that was too big to fit.

    What's a girl to do? Yup. I pulled out my Dremel and modified the needle to fit. Set it correctly and she made her first stitches in probably a couple of decades. There's still some room for adjustment but these are pretty good for the time spent. I will also try to raise the needle a smidge more to see if I can get the shank to not go through the fabric. That ought to improve the stitch.

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    I need to figure out how to adjust the bobbin winder because it currently only winds about 2/3 of the bobbin in the center. Many of the screws are a little munged so I thought I'd wait until I found some sort of reference so I didn't try to adjust anything that didn't need to be bothered.

    The other thing outstanding is that the shuttle carrier is currently shimmed with cardboard as proof of concept to make it tighter to the side so the thread goes around the correct side of the shuttle. I will need to figure out if the shuttle is worn out (doesn't seem like it) or if I need to adjust the carrier and where.

    Now the real question: Do I clean her up and leave her that way or do I try out Glenn's restoration process on her? I'm thinking even to the point of trying to restore some of the gold decal. I have the odd steady day .... it would be a long term project of course.
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    Tammi - I've found that many baby steps tend to get you further than a huge leap in followed by a huge leap out - http://www.archaicarcane.com
    Singer 411G, 301A, 2x 221 (featherweight), 222k - the holy grail, 15-90 Centennial, 27, VS2, 28 hc, 128 knee bar, 201-2, 31-15, Pfaff 130-6. Non-Vintage - Pfaff 6122, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81595 serger, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81155, 2013 APQS Lucey

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    You will love sewing with this machine. I have one and love it. Very much like a Singer 12 only the engineering is better.
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    Glenn W. Cleveland

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    x2 on Glenns comment. I have had a few F&R's and they ALL sewed better than any Singer I own.

    If you have issues finding a manual let me know, I'm sure i have one somewhere.

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    The machine has aged beautifully and gracefully - I'd simply make the chrome shine and otherwise just clean the body very carefully so that it glows.
    The 'patina' on the wood should match that of the machine and preserve some of its long history.

    Enjoy! :-)
    Sabine

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    You guys are right. I do love working with her. There's something about the sound when she's stitching too. Winnie had it too. It's different than a VS machine.

    Steve, the one I found is this one: http://www.ismacs.net/fristerandross...se-shuttle.pdf Is there another one? The bobbin winder is a little different in this one, as is the shuttle. Of course as an owner's manual there's also no "adjustment" info for the bobbin winder.
    Tammi - I've found that many baby steps tend to get you further than a huge leap in followed by a huge leap out - http://www.archaicarcane.com
    Singer 411G, 301A, 2x 221 (featherweight), 222k - the holy grail, 15-90 Centennial, 27, VS2, 28 hc, 128 knee bar, 201-2, 31-15, Pfaff 130-6. Non-Vintage - Pfaff 6122, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81595 serger, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81155, 2013 APQS Lucey

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    I'll check when I get home from work to see if mine is different from that, but that one should cover most everything

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    I think I'd leave it alone. Sews' comment that the patina of the wood and machine should match is right on. Both show their age and it's obvious that it was used by it's owner. It should be a good machine for you once you make those adjustments.
    Rodney
    "Neglect to oil the machine will shorten its life and cause you

    trouble and annoyance" Quote from Singer Model 99 Manual

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    Quote Originally Posted by sews View Post
    The machine has aged beautifully and gracefully - I'd simply make the chrome shine and otherwise just clean the body very carefully so that it glows.
    The 'patina' on the wood should match that of the machine and preserve some of its long history.

    Enjoy! :-)
    I think you're right Sabine. Part of me wants to redo her completely, but at the same time I love the warmth of the wood and the look of her. I suppose I'd just love to see a little more of the decals. That said, I keep telling my neighbor not to try to turn the 99 I gave him back to "original" to leave the decals alone. I suppose I need to take my own advice!

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveH View Post
    I'll check when I get home from work to see if mine is different from that, but that one should cover most everything
    Thanks Steve! If the one you have says anything about the "improved bobbin winder" or the newer boat shuttle, I'd love to see it, otherwise this one does everything I need.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    I think I'd leave it alone. Sews' comment that the patina of the wood and machine should match is right on. Both show their age and it's obvious that it was used by it's owner. It should be a good machine for you once you make those adjustments.
    Rodney
    Duly Noted. I will clean her up but not tamper with her finish more. I think she's going to be great. I have the needles and bobbin tire on my next order, and the thread guide and the shuttle carrier are on the list for the weekend.
    Tammi - I've found that many baby steps tend to get you further than a huge leap in followed by a huge leap out - http://www.archaicarcane.com
    Singer 411G, 301A, 2x 221 (featherweight), 222k - the holy grail, 15-90 Centennial, 27, VS2, 28 hc, 128 knee bar, 201-2, 31-15, Pfaff 130-6. Non-Vintage - Pfaff 6122, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81595 serger, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81155, 2013 APQS Lucey

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    Hey SteveH? Others too I'm sure. Found this just now, turns out the bobbin winder issue was a carbon based life form problem. Winds the gorgeous tight bobbins I remember my Winnie making now.

    http://www.ersimages.com/ecards/Tran...,%20Timing.pdf


    That leaves me fabbing up a pigtail and major cleanup, and finding some organ DBx1 needles because all of the ones I have here are too thick in the shank and bury their shoulders in the fabric now that I have everything working properly. I bent out the softer metal spring parts on the shuttle carrier to make it a little tighter so it no longer skips stiches without the cardboard shim.
    Tammi - I've found that many baby steps tend to get you further than a huge leap in followed by a huge leap out - http://www.archaicarcane.com
    Singer 411G, 301A, 2x 221 (featherweight), 222k - the holy grail, 15-90 Centennial, 27, VS2, 28 hc, 128 knee bar, 201-2, 31-15, Pfaff 130-6. Non-Vintage - Pfaff 6122, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81595 serger, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81155, 2013 APQS Lucey

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    Congratulations on your machine! It speaks of history and times gone by!

    Jeanette

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