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Thread: So I've been watching this machine for the last month....

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    Super Member ArchaicArcane's Avatar
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    So I've been watching this machine for the last month....

    Possibly coveting it.

    It's a Winselmann, and I know very little about them. I don't know all of what this machine comes with, I haven't contacted the seller, because I wanted to have money in hand.

    Seller wants $100 for it. Says in the ad that the machine belonged to their mother and was used by her for many years until electric sewing machines came along.

    Any thoughts?

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    I think shes gorgeous! Not sure i would pay that for it but then again im cheap haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jennb View Post
    I think shes gorgeous! Not sure i would pay that for it but then again im cheap haha!
    I think she is gorgeous also. But when I find an unusual sewing machine cheap flies out the window. Yes, $100 is a lot but I would pay the price to add that machine to my collection.
    Sweet Caroline

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    I find hand crank machines fascinating. I have a treadle and I do love it but I don't think I'd be able to do much sewing with a hand crank. It makes my shoulder ache just thinking about it. Maybe someone who uses one can tell you if it's a good buy or not. If you are just collecting it, it is a neat and original piece.

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    If you have the hundred dollars and really want it then buy it. If you wait too long you may miss out.
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    I'd do it...and Miriam calls me a "tightwad"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee View Post
    I'd do it...and Miriam calls me a "tightwad"!
    OK,.. that decided me for sure. I sent off an email. Hopefully I'll hear something soon. We're in the city tonight, so maybe I'll even have information tonight.

    I think she'd be a display piece, but that's what I thought about Betty, the 27 treadle when I bought her too.

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    She called me back about 20 mins ago. I'm going to see it in about an hour and a half.

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    That machine's got YOUR last name on it! Enjoy, take pics so we can all live vicariously!
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    Hope you get her!! I have two hand cranks and love them. Haven't used them yet, but will one day. i was at a quilt show and a lady was using her handcrank and it didn't look too difficult. She said it was not difficult.

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    She's home. I "bargained" to $80, and she came home with me.
    I looked at the machine "in the dark". Her front hallway light had burned out this morning. I made sure that there was a shuttle and a bobbin. There's a needle too, but I need to find out what type it takes.

    At first the needle went up and down a little, but then stopped. The handwheel turned reluctantly, but turned. Then I found the little metal piece that engaged the "clutch" and the needle went up and down. Whew! She needs a heck of a good cleaning, and possibly a date with a hairdryer to loosen some of the old oil up to get it moving.


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    I also found out there may be a chance that there's a treadle base that goes with this.

    Here's the story. Her mom used it til she got an electric machine. She has a treadle base in the garage, she's not sure what it goes to, but it doesn't have a machine in it. I sent her an email when I got home and spotted the 2 drilled holes hidden in the wooden base.
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    I hope your good fortune rubs off on me ... I saw a Morse at an estate sale today and didn't buy it ... I emailed them and asked if they still had it ... I haven't heard from them yet ... I may have to go back over there tomorrow to see if it's still there ... the sale is less than 10 miles away and if it's there it will be mine and it will have been worth the trip. Wish me luck!

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    Good luck!! I hope you do, and of course, pics will be appreciated.

    In other news, yes, I'm still up, I decided to oil the machine, and see if that freed it up a bit. It did. It hasn't been cleaned yet, because it threw a curve ball at me. (That's what I get for looking at it in the dark)

    I was moving the hand wheel as I was oiling it, and realised "Hey! Those dogs aren't moving!"
    The DH was encouraging as ever - "I'm sure it's just something disengaged, it will be something simple"

    LOL! Then he went to bed. Well, I'm a little compulsive. I had to know if I'd gotten a dudder.
    Investigating further, I figured out that the horizontal shaft was turning (hence the needle going up and down), but the vertical wasn't. Uh oh. New territory for me, and not even on a Singer, so little to no reference materials.

    I tried to take the hand wheel off, that was a no go. I pulled the inspection plate on the front, above the logo plate, and found that there were set screws under it, but they didn't line up with the holes.

    I have a confession to make. I sat there thinking, how the heck do you get in here,... scratching my head. Probably a good 10 mins I spent that way. Then I put my hand on the back of the pillar in just the right way, and realised there was a screw there. Turned it around, and found 2 screws, and the whole back comes off! (missing -that- is a sign you need to go to sleep and tackle it in the morning. )

    You'll never guess what I found....

    I'll post the pic in the morning.

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    Not fair! I hate cliff hangers (LOL)
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitza View Post
    Not fair! I hate cliff hangers (LOL)
    Yeah, me too! I see Archaic was up at 2:44am. She is likely sleeping in this morning.
    Sweet Caroline

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    Get back in there and tell us what you found! We're hanging by our fingernails!

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    Yes, that was brattish of me,.. sorry.

    Well, I finally stopped at 5am, when I figured out I needed to time the machine, and my brain wasn't functioning well enough to figure out how to do it anymore.

    This is what was hiding behind the back plate (that's only old nasty grease on the shaft and top of the gear.):

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    I'm reasonably sure that if we'd realised that the feed dogs weren't moving, we would have taken it anyway. I was just glad to see that I could fix it.

    Awake now, with my 6 hours sleep, I think this is why my timing is off. I didn't try to mesh the gear in a particular place I just slid it to the left. It's either that or the "pendulum" piece under the face plate that fell off in my hands when I removed the plate to oil under it.

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