I believe I posted the wrong picture. This was not a Dressmaker. You are all slacking - you missed it...
I'll try again.
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So according to the links SteveH provided, the badge identifies the hand crank machine as distributed in Europe by J Silberg of Hamburg. And going by the pictures and descriptions on the site about Frister and Rossman machines it most likely was made by them. With a serial # of 1281203 if it was by them I'm thinking the date of manufacture would probably have been around 1908 - 1912. (Given the span of 1896-1914 had #s from715233 to 1500000)

Very interesting reading on those links BTW!

Any ideas of what these bobbins fit? "Bagel" shape, but they're larger than the W&W9 bobbins by about 3/16"...and wider too...

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I don't know, but it would be cool to think that that are ww12s... I have a machine but I've never seen a bobbin other than drawings.

Do the 12's drawing look like these?

I think you nailed it on this one, Steve. The badge looks like the Hengstenberg one, and not the Gritzner. Gritzner has the spider in the center of the badge. Here's another Singer 12 look-a--like, as is my Gritzner.
I think the Germans liked making the machines with the MOP on the bases. Did any American manufacturers use the MOP on their machines? Any one know?

I was wondering if any one knows just how long, in years, did the Singer 66 come with the back clamping attachments. Is it the only Singer with them? When did Singer change the 66 to side clamping attachments? Is there a sight with the machines listed that would tell this?

I knew I read this a while back. This should help you Janis.
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http://oldsingersewingmachineblog.co...er-66-mystery/

Thanks Grant, I had read it recently, BUT hadn't read the comments at the bottom. From now on, I'll be inclined to read them too! From what I read there, the Singer 66-1 is the only one with the back clamp attachments. Then with the 66-2 and on, the attachments were on from the side. I'm guessing that the rest of the Singers were all short shank and side clamping attachments until the slant needle machines came to have the slant attachments. It makes a lot of sense having the attachments fit a lot of different machines. I do have some Singer short shank attachments that are longer than others, but they all seem to work on my machines.

I went on ismacs comprehensive Singer list and found that the Singer 66 1-3 had rear mounting presser feet, not must the 66-1, or at least in the Untied Kingdom. Would they be different here?