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Thread: Quilting On a Vintage Singer Machine

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricket_iscute View Post
    Joe, the best gloves I've tried are called Machingers. Here is a link:

    http://www.dakotacabinquilts.com/cgi...machingersM_LG

    There are other gloves that have nubby bumps on them. I always use gloves to machine quilt, and most of the machine quilters I know also do that.

    It sounds to me like your feed dogs are dull, dirty, or used up and need to be switched out. It's a fairly simple thing to do. However, many machines have trouble with bumps. In that case, you need a hump jumper. Here's a link:

    http://www.homesew.com/n8.html

    So for less than $20, you can end your problems!

    Now let me ask you a question: My 127 was dead for 40 years when I brought it back from the dead. I still have trouble making a good stitch, tension wise. The stitch is loose. I'd rather get a new head than change the tensioneer, but maybe... Do you have any suggestions?
    Thanks for the links, and the info.

    I found out what the problem was with my 127. It was the original one piece stamped presser foot. It has short stubby toes and when it hit any raised area the toes would just but up against it and the machine would stop feeding.
    I put in a later vintage hinged foot with longer more curved toes and it worked nicely. So that problem is fixed.

    As for your tensioner, remove it from the machine, take it completely apart and clean it thoroughly. Make sure the disks are smooth and free of rust or any build up. Polish them if needed.
    Reassemble it and adjust it and I'll wager it sews better.

    Do the same for the shuttle. Remove that dinky little screw, pull off the spring and clean it inside and out. Reassemble and adjust and it will make a big difference.


    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro View Post
    i was told stitch length to zerio. top of machine over pressure foot is a screw. turn counterclock to lessen the presser foot.
    That's only for Free motion quilting. When you use a walking foot, you need to lengthen your stitch to about 8-10 stitches per inch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace View Post
    The walking foot for your 301 is not helping much. There are no walking feet made that fit the 301's feed dogs. Look at the walking foot and compare it to your feed dogs and you will see they don't match up. Many people quilt with it by simply reducing the pressure. Similarly, if you don't have a straight stitch walking foot for your 201 and 15, the walking foot teeth are not meeting up with the feed dogs and aren't helping much. The correct tools for the job help immensely. Sew Classic carries the straight stitch walking foot for the 15 and 201. http://shop.SEW-CLASSIC.COM/Low-Shan...tch-P60400.htm
    Wow, Candace, you're GOOD! Thank you for this information.

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    Hey Candace,

    Jenny (Sew-Classic) is advertising a walking foot specifically for the 301:
    http://shop.sew-classic.com/Singer-S...A-SCF301WF.htm

    It's labelled as an actual Singer part #. Her part number isn't a Singer part number though, and I think that's because it's "modified" per her description. If you look at both the one she lists for a 301, and the one she lists for "all other slants", you can see that what she's done is modify the original at the bar that goes above the needle clamp. Between the 2 listings, it's probably possible to figure out what to do to make it work properly. I have a Singer Slant walking foot here, I might see what I can figure out to make one work, just for the heck of it.

    The walking foot that you linked to for the 15 and the 201 is "just" an Alphasew made walking foot. Any dealer can likely get it with that part number (P60400) and $20 is more than fair for it.
    Tammi - I've found that many baby steps tend to get you further than a huge leap in followed by a huge leap out - http://www.archaicarcane.com
    Singer 411G, 301A, 2x 221 (featherweight), 222k - the holy grail, 15-90 Centennial, 27, VS2, 28 hc, 128 knee bar, 201-2, 31-15, Pfaff 130-6. Non-Vintage - Pfaff 6122, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81595 serger, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81155, 2013 APQS Lucey

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchaicArcane View Post
    Hey Candace,

    Jenny (Sew-Classic) is advertising a walking foot specifically for the 301:
    http://shop.sew-classic.com/Singer-S...A-SCF301WF.htm

    It's labelled as an actual Singer part #. Her part number isn't a Singer part number though, and I think that's because it's "modified" per her description. If you look at both the one she lists for a 301, and the one she lists for "all other slants", you can see that what she's done is modify the original at the bar that goes above the needle clamp. Between the 2 listings, it's probably possible to figure out what to do to make it work properly. I have a Singer Slant walking foot here, I might see what I can figure out to make one work, just for the heck of it.

    The walking foot that you linked to for the 15 and the 201 is "just" an Alphasew made walking foot. Any dealer can likely get it with that part number (P60400) and $20 is more than fair for it.
    Yes, and it still doesn't align with the feed dogs of the machine. Just because it "fits" doesn't mean it does the job. Like I stated before there ARE NO WALKING FEET currently available for 301's that mesh with the feed dogs. If you read Jenny's comments on the foot you'd see "This foot is not a straight stitch only foot, so on machines such as the 404 and 301, the foot is slightly wider than the feed dogs. Currently, no straight stitch only slant shank walking foot is manufactured."

    I don't understand what you mean by the link to the straight stitch walking foot "just being an Alpasew". Of course any dealer can get it. None of these attachments are a rarity.
    Last edited by Candace; 03-18-2013 at 06:23 AM.

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    Wow. I didn't misunderstand you. And I did in fact read that before posting. I thought maybe you hadn't seen that one, maybe it was a new addition to her site. I'm surprised that she'd be selling something that fits but doesn't work. It seems out of character, but I guess if you're sure enough about it to yell, I'll have to believe it. I'll stop trying to help.
    Tammi - I've found that many baby steps tend to get you further than a huge leap in followed by a huge leap out - http://www.archaicarcane.com
    Singer 411G, 301A, 2x 221 (featherweight), 222k - the holy grail, 15-90 Centennial, 27, VS2, 28 hc, 128 knee bar, 201-2, 31-15, Pfaff 130-6. Non-Vintage - Pfaff 6122, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81595 serger, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81155, 2013 APQS Lucey

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    Here is a bit more gasoline for the fire.

    My wife has had a generic low shank ZZ walking foot in her Bernina case for years. It came with a metal Bernina to LS adapter. Last year I took it out and put it on several of our LS ZZ and straight stitch machines and it worked. The walking foot feet does not match the feed dogs of the straight stitch machines, that is true, but it does work. I've used it. I posted pictures of that ZZ walking foot mounted to my Singer 66 Treadle #2 quilting it's cover.

    OK, late last year I bought one of Sew-Classics straight stitch walking feet. I tried it on many of our machines and it would not work. I don't know why. It looked good, fit, functioned, but would not work. In each case I put the generic LS ZZ foot back on and it did work.
    I got a credit for the WF from S-C and have continued to use the LS ZZ foot.

    It's my experience that just because the feet don't match doesn't mean it won't work. I think there is more to it.

    I'm hoping that somewhere there is a Singer made LS SS WF and when I find one I'll buy it. Until then I'll stick with the generic LS ZZ WF.

    Just my experiences.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post

    It's my experience that just because the feet don't match doesn't mean it won't work. I think there is more to it.


    Joe

    I didn't say it didn't work. Or what I mean is it doesn't work like a walking foot is engineered to. And it doesn't work as it should or help feed layers through together like a true fitting walking foot does. Simple as that. Does it help feed top layers? Probably somewhat, but if the feed dogs don't mesh, the layers aren't being fed together as one unit and shifting can occur. No big deal to have an extra gadget. I have lots of extra gadgets that don't do much for me. Lots of folks have the same results on a 301 as just lowering the foot pressure. If you understand the engineering and goal of what a true fitting WF does, you'll understand what I mean...The top feed dogs are supposed to grab the material in conjunction with the bottom feed dogs. If they don't meet with the bottom the grabbing or feeding is much less effective. Different strokes for different folks.
    Last edited by Candace; 03-18-2013 at 09:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchaicArcane View Post
    Wow. I didn't misunderstand you. And I did in fact read that before posting. I thought maybe you hadn't seen that one, maybe it was a new addition to her site. I'm surprised that she'd be selling something that fits but doesn't work. It seems out of character, but I guess if you're sure enough about it to yell, I'll have to believe it. I'll stop trying to help.
    I'm not yelling and if you read my statement it's not doing what a WF is engineered to do. I didn't say "It doesn't work". There are many WF available for different width zigzag machines. 4mm up to 9mm. It is important to get the one that fits your zig zag capable machine's feed dog width. And there are no straight stitch WF made for the slant shank that fit the 301 feed dogs. Yes, they can be adapted to fit on the needle bar, but if you look you'll see the feed dogs don't align properly. FWIW.
    Last edited by Candace; 03-18-2013 at 09:49 AM.

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    Here's a link to a page Jenny made to show how the feed dogs are supposed to align with the WF and what it looks when they don't. http://blog.sew-classic.com/2009/11/...king-foot.aspx

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