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    Singer 411G machine

    Hi I have an old beautiful singer 411g model and the motor is not working.
    Do any of you in this group have any idea where I can find a replacement motor?
    It would have to be a 220v motor. thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shalini-s View Post
    Hi I have an old beautiful singer 411g model and the motor is not working.
    Nice looking machine. When you say the motor isn't working, what exactly is wrong with it?
    The usual problems with motors are:
    * Lack of grease, which would freeze the motor up when the bearings dry up, and
    * Brushes wear out.
    Both of these problems are fixable. If you can't turn the motor I'd clean out the old grease and re-fill it. If it turns OK but is just 'weak' chances are it's the brushes.
    Another possible problem is that the foot controller isn't working.
    Sorry for answering your question with questions, but I'd be going the easy, cheap repair option first and you haven't said why it needs replacement.
    Mike
    My Singers: 12k (1883), VS2 Roses and Daisies (1891), VS2 Victorian (1891), Improved Family (15-1, 1886), 15k (1917), 27 Tiffany (1900), 29k58, 96k41 (1947), 96k41 (1949), 201k (1953), 201p (1958) 206k11 (1950), 222k (1954), 222k (1959), 306k, 320k2(1959), 401g (1960), 411g
    Others: Empisal (1960s), Bernina Record 530-2, Pfaff 60, Pfaff 260, Lemair (1960s)

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    Like the 401 series, the motor is a "Sealed bearing", no grease pots on this one.

    That said, there are brushes, so those are worth looking at. I've had motors with the brushes worn down to nubs, and they stop working completely. The brushes should be 1/4" or longer. Brushes can be checked by removing the bottom panel of the machine and looking for the "springs" in the motor. The grey part to the inside of the springs are the brushes.

    The other thing worth trying - Assuming the motor just growls and doesn't move when you press the pedal:
    there's a bearing on the top of the motor. If you remove the top of the machine (as though greasing the upper part of the machine), you will see a fiber gear attached to the handwheel, and a "worm gear" that it rides against. Follow the worm gear to where it disappears into the bowels of the machine... this is where the bearing is. It gets gummed up with years of that grease seeping down there, and seizes solid.

    I find usually about 5 drops of tri-flow oil for a seized motor bearing (about 2 for a regular maintenance thing), let it sit a few minutes, then gently see if the handwheel is willing to rock back and forth a little. It will loosen up pretty quickly. Once its free, you should run the oil into the bearing by running it for a few minutes. Some people say full out, I usually just run it.

    If it's really kaput... the motors from 401s, 403s, 500, 503s and I think some of the 600 series machines will work if you can find them.
    Tammi - I've found that many baby steps tend to get you further than a huge leap in followed by a huge leap out - http://www.archaicarcane.com
    Singer 411G, 301A, 2x 221 (featherweight), 222k - the holy grail, 99-, 15-90 Centennial, 27, VS2, 28 hc, 128 knee bar, 201-2, Pfaff 130-6. Non-Vintage - Pfaff 6122, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81595 serger, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81155, 2013 APQS Lucey

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    You haven't replied to anyone's questions, shalini-s. I have another one: Do we assume you're in the UK? No information in your profile and you didn't tell us.
    My Singers: 12k (1883), VS2 Roses and Daisies (1891), VS2 Victorian (1891), Improved Family (15-1, 1886), 15k (1917), 27 Tiffany (1900), 29k58, 96k41 (1947), 96k41 (1949), 201k (1953), 201p (1958) 206k11 (1950), 222k (1954), 222k (1959), 306k, 320k2(1959), 401g (1960), 411g
    Others: Empisal (1960s), Bernina Record 530-2, Pfaff 60, Pfaff 260, Lemair (1960s)

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    There's a really good chance that the original poster has been "got" by that "Do Not Subscribe" message notifications thing that happens when we all join QB. It got me for a bit too.
    Tammi - I've found that many baby steps tend to get you further than a huge leap in followed by a huge leap out - http://www.archaicarcane.com
    Singer 411G, 301A, 2x 221 (featherweight), 222k - the holy grail, 99-, 15-90 Centennial, 27, VS2, 28 hc, 128 knee bar, 201-2, Pfaff 130-6. Non-Vintage - Pfaff 6122, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81595 serger, Kenmore (Janome) 385.81155, 2013 APQS Lucey

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    Well, if the motor is shot that 411G WILL treadle.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts. Winston Churchill

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