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Thread: Singer 411G, Singer 401G and a Singer 401A Slant-O-Matic Singer machines

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    The 'M' is Monza, Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchaicArcane View Post
    M is Malaysia, isn't it? G for Germany, J for St Jean Quebec, in Canada, K for Kilbowie Scotland, A for Anderson, South Carolina, USA,....

    I think you'd be hard pressed to treadle a 431, there are no holes for the hinges to mount. You might be best off taking the motor from the 411 and put it in the 431 then treadle the 411.

    That said, it's worth checking the motor brushes on the 431 before holding the funeral on it. So many technicians don't properly service or even check the motors.
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    Ah!! Thank you!!
    I couldn't find the list I referred to way back when.

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    I just bought a 411G and would like to see how the treadle belt is on the hand wheel.I looked at mine I have no belt grove and I cant see your hand wheel at all.I think maybe mine is one that came not fitted for the treadle. The machine works great for $20. I was hoping to set it up in a treadle just for the fun of it.

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    It looks pretty much the same as the 401G that Miriam posted a pic of here: Singer 411G, Singer 401G and a Singer 401A Slant-O-Matic Singer machines

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    Quote Originally Posted by totalchaos View Post
    I just bought a 411G and would like to see how the treadle belt is on the hand wheel.I looked at mine I have no belt grove and I cant see your hand wheel at all.I think maybe mine is one that came not fitted for the treadle. The machine works great for $20. I was hoping to set it up in a treadle just for the fun of it.
    The balance wheel has a step in it - a spinning wheel belt may fit better than the leather belt. I had to shim mine out because the belt was sort of thick. I have heard of people filing a grove in there but I don't think it was intended to work that way. Someone found me on line and sent an email. We emailed back and forth until she got her's done - the spinning wheel belt worked great. I still need to go buy one so I haven't personally done it that way. I think I showed a picture of the rear channels but not with the belt in it. The belt goes through like you see in the front, over the balance wheel, then down through the channel in the back and down around the treadle wheel.
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    Singer 401G again
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    401A and a 411G rear - the 411G has that hole in the back for the belt to go through no hole in the 411A.
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    Here is someplace that sells the belts:
    http://www.spinnerschoice.com/Spinni...s/default.html
    Stretchy poly-cord drive bands for your spinning wheel are durable and easy to install. These flexible spinning wheel drive bands offer a stronger draw in than conventional cotton belts and will last and last. Choose from traditional clear or black or bring some color into you spinning with NEW shades of crystal lavender and crystal rose! Available in single drive ($7.00)or double drive ($14.00)or pre-fused for Louet S10, S17 and S51. ($9.95) All non-fused spinning wheel drive belts include easy to follow instructions.

    I'm thinking she used a single but bought double just in case.
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    Hello!
    I'm about to purchase a European 401 (not sure if it's the G or M). The lady is telling me it's still working (she said she used it last a couple of months ago last). I'm unable to check since she's located in the north of Italy, and I'm currently in the south. I also don't know a thing about sewing, this would be my 1st machine, and I'm very much looking forward to learning on it. Comparing the pictures she sent me with all your pictures, I have some doubts about its nose: the slot seems broken/way to large (see pictures). Since it comes with this cabinet, which I adore, if you think it's fixable, I'd rather have it repaired than losing the opportunity... What do you think?
    Thank you all in advance for your advice. (I hope it's OK to post here, I figured this was the right place since the different 401 pictures are here too.)
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    What a great table!!
    I don't think there's anything "wrong" with the nose, I think it's open. This part has to open to service the machine, it's just a hinged door.
    Make sure the stitch selector moves freely. Many people will say the machine works fine, and if all they do is one stitch, they may never notice that the stitch selector is frozen up. The front one pushes in, then turns, and the back pulls toward you and then turns.

    If the stitch selector is frozen up, it can be fixed with some time and elbow grease, but it becomes a bargaining point.
    This is a discussion we had about that very problem on the American version of your machine.
    Shall I try and get this machine?


    A couple of things to note though.
    1. Are there are 2 different machines in these photos? One has the brown panel behind the stitch selector, and one has the beige. This is very strange. Maybe it's just a trick of the light.

    2. There's water staining on the floor (I think) Machines don't like really moist environments. It would be a good idea to check the machine over very carefully for signs that the moisture has bothered it. Again, not insurmountable, just something to look for.

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