Treadle table questions
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Neat setup! I'd love to see it in person too. It does look like it was meant to be either electric or treadle depending on the owner's needs at the moment. Does it look like there might be (or might have been) a knee controller for power when it's electric? I think Joe is right, the bracket was for a Hamilton Beach style motor. I think I saw one that was badged Singer before. It looks like there is a motor boss under the bracket so you could put a regular Singer motor on if you wanted, I would be inclined to find the HB one though.
Rodney
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Rodney, I *think* this is the type of setup where the treadle pedal(say that 5 times fast) becomes the foot control for the electric motor. I've seen the whole setup once a long time ago so don't remember exactly what it looks like.
Cari
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Neat setup! I'd love to see it in person too. It does look like it was meant to be either electric or treadle depending on the owner's needs at the moment. Does it look like there might be (or might have been) a knee controller for power when it's electric? I think Joe is right, the bracket was for a Hamilton Beach style motor. I think I saw one that was badged Singer before. It looks like there is a motor boss under the bracket so you could put a regular Singer motor on if you wanted, I would be inclined to find the HB one though.
Rodney
Rodney
#14
Cari, I hadn't seen your post...it feels that way to me. The treadle peddle is operating within the box the wiring goes to and it squeeks just a bit like a foot controller.
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Joe, do you have a photo of what I would be looking for? If I knew what to look for, I could at least keep an eye out.
I'm looking closer and I can see the when the bottom wooden part is lifted to expose the treadle paddle and is clipped in the upright position it actually presses a small button on the right inside bit I thought was a terminal. That must be a switch perhaps to switch off from electric power?
I'm looking closer and I can see the when the bottom wooden part is lifted to expose the treadle paddle and is clipped in the upright position it actually presses a small button on the right inside bit I thought was a terminal. That must be a switch perhaps to switch off from electric power?
Joe
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HAMILTON BEECH MOTOR pics for Christy:
This one is badged "New Home", but I've seen pics of them with Singer, Hamilton Beech, Westinghouse, Western Electric, and maybe other name placards.
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You can see the pivot point where the motor and the black bracket meets. I haven't had this one apart yet but I suspect that if you remove the spring the curved bracket will slide off the shaft on the motor part.
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The one thing I have noticed is the bodies and end caps are prone to cracks and fractures. I rebuilt a Western Electric one for a forum member and had to JB Weld the end caps where the nuts held it together. They had fractured.
This one has several cracks in the body. Hopefully it won't disassemble itself when I take it apart to clean it.
Joe
This one is badged "New Home", but I've seen pics of them with Singer, Hamilton Beech, Westinghouse, Western Electric, and maybe other name placards.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]499053[/ATTACH]
You can see the pivot point where the motor and the black bracket meets. I haven't had this one apart yet but I suspect that if you remove the spring the curved bracket will slide off the shaft on the motor part.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]499054[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]499055[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]499056[/ATTACH]
The one thing I have noticed is the bodies and end caps are prone to cracks and fractures. I rebuilt a Western Electric one for a forum member and had to JB Weld the end caps where the nuts held it together. They had fractured.
This one has several cracks in the body. Hopefully it won't disassemble itself when I take it apart to clean it.
Joe
#18
Thanks Joe! And thank you for the warning about cracks and fractures. That lets me know to look carefully at it if I find one AND to handle it with care when working on it. I have a lot more homework to do before I get to that point! I found an article here http://oldsingersewingmachineblog.co...treadle-bases/ **You need to scroll down the page, but it talks about a Singer convertible table and special motor controller. This isn't exactly like what mine has going on...but there are enough similarities to let me know I am on the right track!
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