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Thread: Vintage Sewing Machine Shop.....Come on in and sit a spell

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    This machine takes low shank feet. The ones you mentioned will fit it, but they are all for straight stitching and this is a zigzag, so the feeddogs may not line up well.

    Also sorry to say that this machine is famous for a cracked gear on the top of the vertical shaft on the right side.
    The gear is set into a 'well' that makes it almost impossible to get a replacement gear into place
    without removing the main shaft. Nice machine when it is working, but this gear will go out sooner or later.

    Cathy


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    i PURCHASED A 247 singer today for twenty bucks, with no attachments. as I have several other machines .will other attachments and feet fit this one,??Ihave a couple 99's 2 FW. a 201 , and a white rotary plus a 185 and a 175 white to name a few.
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    Tammy,

    I think you'll find that the bobbin case is the same as for the White '77'. It's different than the ones for the White FR.
    Absolutely great machines!!

    Cathy


    [QUOTE=Tammy Jeann;5769561]Thanks Grant, it helped alot
    Found the manual for the Domestic and it just about matches mine.. only difference was the reverse and forward mechanism. So I downloaded it and will see what else I can find.. As far as dating it, I don't know how with the numbers I have.. But will continue digging around..
    Cathy

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    [QUOTE=Mizkaki;5769616]Tammy,

    I think you'll find that the bobbin case is the same as for the White '77'. It's different than the ones for the White FR.
    Absolutely great machines!!




    Cathy


    Quote Originally Posted by Tammy Jeann View Post
    Thanks Grant, it helped alot
    Found the manual for the Domestic and it just about matches mine.. only difference was the reverse and forward mechanism. So I downloaded it and will see what else I can find.. As far as dating it, I don't know how with the numbers I have.. But will continue digging around..
    I don't know why the white rotaries haven't caught on- they are such workhorses. Maybe it's the krinkly brown finish? My first treadle was a White- my Great grandma's. It's currently living at mom's house. I have had a few 77s that I have given away and they are such nice, unfussy machines. Miz Kakie- is it the rotary mechanism that makes them so un-fussy? They seem to sew through anything. Laura

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    Oh, I had a good weekend. I re-homed two machines this weekend to some great people that were just so nice. The Dressmaker is gone as is the machine that I was holding for my honey. I think that they both went to the right homes. I get great satisfaction with that. But I digress. Because I freed up some space and the cabinet looked so nice, my honey (of all people) told me to grab this one today off of CL. That free space in the living room sure didn't last long. I'm not so sure about the machine but the cabinet is so nice. I want to put my Blue Morse 15 clone in it and learn how to treadle with it. This is my first treadle. That sounds like fun to me to be honest. I'm worried about the handwheel size with it though. Is it going to be too fast and "jittery" with that size handwheel? This is the cabinet and the sad 66 taken from the ad.

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    This is my Morse clone that I would like to put in it in place of the sad 66.

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    Will this work? I don't want it to be too fast and I don't want to change out the handwheel either. Has anyone done this before? I could just keep the Morse electric and use the antique Singer cabinet to house it but I want it to do both as an option for each. Any and all input is welcome and you won't hurt my feelings. I want to learn here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tammy Jeann View Post
    Thanks Grant, it helped alot
    Found the manual for the Domestic and it just about matches mine.. only difference was the reverse and forward mechanism. So I downloaded it and will see what else I can find.. As far as dating it, I don't know how with the numbers I have.. But will continue digging around..


    BTW, the pic posted is the before pic and I have a few more so no worries about the dust.. The cabinet came with it, we found them both hiding in a back storage area of our local junk shop. It had been sitting back there about 3 years. We got it for $10.00. And all the veneer on it was peeling off and had a mess load of damage to it, so my b/f took to his shop and has got it nearly all sanded off. I wanted to keep as much of it on there as I could but he just went to town on it.. Will post some pics of it when it is done.
    Well Tammy Jeann, how can you go wrong for $10? That machine is a great machine and is one that is worthy of every positive thing said about it. Unfortunately mine was in the brown crinkle paint that was not so desirable. I had a friend that needed a workhorse to sew interiors and I gave him the one I posted. It was the right machine for the tough job at hand in my humble opinion. They might not be the prettiest one out there but they sure are well behaved and lay down a nice stitch when given the opportunity. He was impressed with it when it got down to business too. He actually sewed an interior of a sidecar of an old WW2 motorcycle with it. How cool is that? If I remember correctly, don't quote me, but I think that one was from the 20's. I am probably wrong on that though.
    ~G~

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    It may not be the purdiest machine around.. But I can not wait for it to be finished up and running.
    I have a couple of jean quilts to make.. ;-)

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    Before we started to clean and work on her.

    We have replace the tension knob, and she has been cleaned up a bit, just need to take a good picture of her now. Everything seems to be moving around like it should, all free of dirt and grime. Waiting on the cabinet to be done, a service manual to show up, so we can get the re wiring done and check everything over really good.. oh and some needles for it also.. Do you folks remember what size needle I need?

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    Grant,

    The size of the handwheel does not affect the speed of your sewing, but the diameter of the wheel at the belt groove does. A normal solid handwheel will work with treadling. The larger outside diameter of the spoked handwheel only helps to keep things running smoothly due the the larger centrifical force of the higher weight/ mass. (Hope that is clearer than mud.)

    Cathy
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    Miz Kakie- is it the rotary mechanism that makes them so un-fussy? They seem to sew through anything. Laura[/QUOTE]

    Laura,

    I think so. The rotary action definitely makes it smooth.

    Cathy
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    I have messed with a couple White machines lately - very nice - even the newer ones. I think I have two of those older rotary ones somewhere in the shop - haven't messed with them yet.

    How closely are the 1980s plastic White machines related to Janome? I noticed that the White and the New Home (with Janome label) thread the same. I can't look at them any more - sold them.

    The other machine I'm impressed with has been some of the Montgomery Ward. That WM 15 clone was the best one I've seen made by Happy - that presser foot lifted higher than any I have seen. Amongst the really dirty hoarder machines, I had an old white, chrome and ORANGE 1970s - it cleaned up pretty nice though - it had a nice variety of stitch features and a good amount of attachments and the manual - worked beautifully - sold it. Right now I have a later all metal one probably late 60s early 70s that does straight & zz - center needle. Very nice machine - made by Happy - says so on the bottom.
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    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts. Winston Churchill

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    MW zzer made by Happy:
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    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts. Winston Churchill

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