I owned a Grace and had an Elna with not much throat space on it. I did a number of quilts on it and liked it but sold the frame and kept the machine as a spare. I upgraded to Tin Lizzie 18 LS and it is on a grace frame--$8,000. I love it! No computer control but there is a regulator. The frame takes up a little more space than the older one. My other Grace had tracks the new one runs on rails like a Gammill. I can do on my Lizzie anything that can be done on a Gammill. Experienced a few probs in the beginning but the dealer and company made it right. And I have aleady lost count on how many quilts I have quilted since last Oct. I do some for others for $$. And I live in a small community in Alaska.